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Old 11-11-2019, 02:27 PM
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Because I keep hoping your alums would get the message
What's that supposed to mean? Our alumni are responsible for ensuring that 18-21 year old adults refrain from irresponsible alcohol use? Where has that ever been accomplished? Scientology?

It's bad enough that NPC groups push all of the liability for college partying onto fraternities, but to tut tut us about our alumni not getting the message is a bit beyond the pale. If all fraternal organizations adopted the alcohol policies of the NPC, I doubt many of our organizations would be around in 10 years time.

Alcohol isn't our raison d'etre, but it's part of college life and has been in U.S./European culture since college life existed.
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Old 11-11-2019, 05:42 PM
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What's that supposed to mean? Our alumni are responsible for ensuring that 18-21 year old adults refrain from irresponsible alcohol use? Where has that ever been accomplished? Scientology?

It's bad enough that NPC groups push all of the liability for college partying onto fraternities, but to tut tut us about our alumni not getting the message is a bit beyond the pale. If all fraternal organizations adopted the alcohol policies of the NPC, I doubt many of our organizations would be around in 10 years time.

Alcohol isn't our raison d'etre, but it's part of college life and has been in U.S./European culture since college life existed.
The banning of kegs led to the use of hard liquor and thereby a doubling of the death rate in Greek organizations. Adults always forget about the unintended consequences of their actions. "Banning" hard liquor hasn't worked, as bans frequently do not.
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Old 11-11-2019, 06:46 PM
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What's that supposed to mean? Our alumni are responsible for ensuring that 18-21 year old adults refrain from irresponsible alcohol use? Where has that ever been accomplished? Scientology?

It's bad enough that NPC groups push all of the liability for college partying onto fraternities, but to tut tut us about our alumni not getting the message is a bit beyond the pale. If all fraternal organizations adopted the alcohol policies of the NPC, I doubt many of our organizations would be around in 10 years time.

Alcohol isn't our raison d'etre, but it's part of college life and has been in U.S./European culture since college life existed.
We haven't pushed it off on the fraternities. We've just said not in the house. And I pledged in 1963 and we didn't have it back then so this isn't a recent event. There are plenty of NPC events where alcohol is served. You just have them elsewhere, with chaperones, bartenders, etc., Will it stop everything? No -but far more of it than today.
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