NPC Quota, Release Figures and Quota Additions (Updated 8/7/2007)

[ISUKappa]

Thanks AZ-Alpha Xi, I knew I was missing a scenario in there!

I think that in JKL's scenario, if they did happen to COR an additional 30 women to bring them up to total (50), it wouldn't be considered "quota plus 25" (10 original bids + 5 COR bids to = quota of 15 plus 25 women to bring them up to total of 50). It's my understanding quota is usually only used/referred to during the structured recruitment process (besides being able to COR up to quota, even if a chapter is at or above total).

[alphaalpha]

[/B][/QUOTE] There is no "quota plus" for COR.*
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This is the answer that i was looking for. I just find it interesting, and something that i never understood because i think that it favors the chapters that are good at formal recruitment.

I think (and if i could rule the world) that if a sorority is allowed to take quota plus during formal/structured rush, then if that sorority needs to COR to reach quota then they should be allowed to take quota plus during COR. I think that each sorority should be allowed to be successful at what they are best at.

I am just asking cause i know at my school some sororities could be over total(90) through making quota and then getting quota plus, so they were at say 100 to 110 while at least 2 other houses were below 50. I know whinning has no real use, but it seems that if a sorority can take quota plus during formal/structured rush then to help out the "small" sororities they should be able to do what the larger chapters do during COR.

Just my opinion, but thanks for the 411,

[33girl]

Originally posted by alphaalpha
This is the answer that i was looking for. I just find it interesting, and something that i never understood because i think that it favors the chapters that are good at formal recruitment.

I think (and if i could rule the world) that if a sorority is allowed to take quota plus during formal/structured rush, then if that sorority needs to COR to reach quota then they should be allowed to take quota plus during COR. I think that each sorority should be allowed to be successful at what they are best at.

I am just asking cause i know at my school some sororities could be over total(90) through making quota and then getting quota plus, so they were at say 100 to 110 while at least 2 other houses were below 50. I know whinning has no real use, but it seems that if a sorority can take quota plus during formal/structured rush then to help out the "small" sororities they should be able to do what the larger chapters do during COR.

Just my opinion, but thanks for the 411,

but the thing is, a quota doesn't EXIST during COR. The only time quota exists is formal rush.

I think some schools have said that you can COR up to "average chapter size" rather than total on campus, but don't quote me on that.

[aopirose]

Originally posted by 33girl
I think some schools have said that you can COR up to "average chapter size" rather than total on campus, but don't quote me on that.

That's true because at some schools the average chapter size is WAY above Total. In order for the sororities to maintain some sort of parity, it would be only fair to allow the smaller chapters to get up to average chapter size. I know that this is done many times during colonization too.

[AUAZD2001]

If chapter average is way above total, then panhellenic should seiously consider either raising total, or bringing in a new chapter.

I was wondereing, in order to encourage women to pledge the smaller chapter(s) on a campus with a reputation which doesn't match reality, could the small chapter(s) be allowed to recruit freshmen in the fall semester, and much larger chapters be required to wait until spring semester to recruit. It would encourage some women to at lteast investigate the smaller chapter(s) because they could start their sorority experience sooner. But if they were determined to join the larger chapters, they would have to wait a semester.

Just thinking a little bit outside the box.

[FSUZeta]

i like the premise of your idea, but in a way it seems like it would be a punishment for the big chapters.

[33girl]

Not only that, you get into freedom of association issues (if the chapters in question haven't done anything to be punished for). The HQs of the sororities effected would be running to the ACLU before you could say Green Book!

Plus, at a school where being super selective is part of the allure of the Greek system, this could backfire - "oh you can pledge ABC first semester, but to pledge XYZ you have to WAIT because we're WORTH it."

[AlphaFrog]

The other thing is where to draw the line. I realize many systems there's a huge gap between the large sororities and small sororites and there's hardly middle groud, but when there is middle ground, who gets to recruit in Fall and who has to wait?? If you have 2 groups at 100+, 2 at 60, 2 at 40 and 1 at 20, where do you draw the line??

[Deepher4Life]

there are way to many rules. sometimes i wish PHA rushed like IFC, everybody comes out and you go to the events you want.

done.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by Deepher4Life

there are way to many rules. sometimes i wish PHA rushed like IFC, everybody comes out and you go to the events you want.

done.

On some campuses, particularly smaller ones, they will use a much less structured recruitment. I do think that a PNM should go to each chapter at least once. At small schools with 4 or fewer chapters and with total at 40 or fewer, it doesn't always make much sense to approach recruitment with release figures.

If the "IFC method" were the only method of recruiting at schools with a large Greek community (i.e. 10+ chapters, total at least 100), you'd see patterns in membership, well, similar to the IFC, lots of turnover.

[ADPi Conniebama]

Well I am from a small (4 sororities) greek community university and WITH ALL OF THESE NEW rules there is so much potential for mistakes on "return rates" and I know this because it happened at the school I advise for this past recruitiment year. IT WAS A MESS and my specific chapter was drastically negatively effected.

Now, don't get me wrong if done correctly and without personal interference by the local panhellenic (given the fact that the greek advisor can and usually does have a favorite sorority - I mean they are only human) then I LOVE the new release figure method but Man when it goes bad it is awful and there is no way to go back and correct the problem.

Furthermore, due to the fact that one of the factors with the new system is to help the "struggling" chapters, if the system breaks down it hurts those chapters that much more. So, I do believe there is room for improvement in this system.

[SWTXBelle]

Sounds like the problem isn't the system - it's the faulty implementation of it. Is there any way to "fix" the problems before next recruitment? Advisors are only human, but that doesn't mean they get a pass for playing obvious favorites!

[ADPi Conniebama]

Oh yea I am sorry of course the "issue" that occured will be corrected prior to the next formal recruitment, however the damage was done and there was no way to correct it during the 07 formal recruitment period

- and yes it was human error that should have been caught by the greek advisor and should have been easy to see - and could have been stopped by the GREEK ADVISOR ONLY for she was the only person in authority that new all of the release numbers (I don't want to say too much)

- BUT really I am over it now because alls well that ends well - I just hate to see human error mess up a good system to that extent

[lawgal]

Just a quick question for you release figure gurus - how are release figures set for a new chapter that hasn't been through recruitment? Can they invite back as many as they want for each set of parties?

[AZ-AlphaXi]

My understanding is that for a new chapter, since it has no historical statistics that
the chapter is allowed to invite back any number of women.