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Old 07-23-2014, 08:20 PM
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I'm reading the post numbers as being hypothetical and artificially large probably to emphasize discrepancies in party attendance. Though not Bama, I can speak to one school where back in the day attendance was extremely lopsided to the detriment of the smallest chapter. But I don't want to detour there --- back to Bama! : )

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Old 07-23-2014, 08:47 PM
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I'm reading the post numbers as being hypothetical and artificially large probably to emphasize discrepancies in party attendance. Though not Bama, I can speak to one school where back in the day attendance was extremely lopsided to the detriment of the smallest chapter. But I don't want to detour there --- back to Bama! : )
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:35 PM
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Yes.
Yes - and it was not that long ago or far away. Go count closed chapters from just before RFM?
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Old 07-23-2014, 10:00 PM
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Yes - and it was not that long ago or far away. Go count closed chapters from just before RFM?
But I don't think those chapters closed because stronger chapters were inviting 5-6x the quota of PNMs to pref and filling rooms with scads of girls they never intended to pledge.

Chapters that closed were probably struggling with numbers even earlier in the week. RFM keeps these chapters on PNM's lists where pre-RFM they may have been dropped earlier-on by PNMs.
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Old 07-23-2014, 11:00 PM
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But I don't think those chapters closed because stronger chapters were inviting 5-6x the quota of PNMs to pref and filling rooms with scads of girls they never intended to pledge.

Chapters that closed were probably struggling with numbers even earlier in the week. RFM keeps these chapters on PNM's lists where pre-RFM they may have been dropped earlier-on by PNMs.
In the bad old days, PreRFM not as many women dropped out because they still had the chapters they wanted early on. They would still have their top choices to prefs - and just get cross-cut and no bid, leaving the smaller chapter that could not make quota.
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Old 07-23-2014, 11:45 PM
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In the bad old days, PreRFM not as many women dropped out because they still had the chapters they wanted early on. They would still have their top choices to prefs - and just get cross-cut and no bid, leaving the smaller chapter that could not make quota.
This was not my experience as either a rushee or an active during bad old days (pre-RFM) at Bama. Strong chapters did not invite a throng of girls to pref that they had no interest in, as they had plenty to fill their living rooms who they were interested in pledging. And since so many PNMs think they want the same strong chapters as their "top choices," it would have been impossible for all these PNMs to be accommodated by a handful of chapters throughout the week and through pref. Girls were released from strong chapters every single night.

Perhaps we are referring to different bad old days -- which bad old days were you there when this was a common practice?

This sounds a lot like tent-talk folklore, since the available stats prior to implementation of RFM at Bama (2005) do not support your statements (see especially "Matched to First Choice" and "Not Receiving Bids" rows, pre-RFM years 2001-2004, compared to post RFM years 2005-2011) here.
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Old 07-23-2014, 10:59 PM
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I'm reading the post numbers as being hypothetical and artificially large probably to emphasize discrepancies in party attendance. Though not Bama, I can speak to one school where back in the day attendance was extremely lopsided to the detriment of the smallest chapter. But I don't want to detour there --- back to Bama! : )
Yes.

My school was DEFINITELY one of the guilty parties and I could (but won't...) name the chapters who were guilty of it year in and year out.

If those chapters had cut their 3rd and 4th round lists to something more realistic and appropriate, the trickle down effect could have helped not only our struggling chapter, but also some of those middle chapters too. With each chapter inviting back as many girls as they wanted, it allowed more PNMs to drop that struggling chapter from their return list. However, when those 3 groups then dropped the axe after 3rd round many girls were left with just 1-2 chapters for pref. OR they preffed one/some of those chapters and got their 3rd choice.

We had 3 chapters close in just over 10 years from the early 80s to 1992. Since RFM there hasn't been a chapter close on my campus and all groups consistently make quota. (or very close to it).
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