Schools that need to open for NPC expansion

[AXOrushadvisor]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

University of Arizona:There is no available (for sale) space on First or Second Streets to build. Not that anyone could afford it if there was a lot. That's the major roadblock to expansion of the NPC sororities. Simply put: can't be competitive without a facility. There are some alternatives being explored and there's nothing to report yet.

Alpha Chi Omega is refurbishing their facility and the chapter can take possession in August 2014, from what I have been told. Alpha Chi's facility is a block and a half further east on First Street and while that doesn't negatively impact the fraternities that are also located close by, somehow it does seem to impact the sororities.

Not sure that any of the fraternities would be willing to sell, all things considered with property on the campus. And honestly, would probably want to demolish any fraternity and build from the ground up. That takes millions.

No idea what's going on at ASU with housing. First I heard of it was here on GC.

I find it fascinating that 2 fraternities are currently building on First Street. Sigma Chi is really humming away on the north side of the street. I can not remember the frat building on the south side. I don't think there are any vacant frats on First or Second Street at this time but there are always rumors.

Alpha Chi will start remodeling their facility right after this semester. It should be good to go for recruitment- which they have changed and added another day to set 2. They should help out a lot but they still need to expand. There were 96 women in my daughter's PC in the fall. That is WAY to big to manage. I had heard that they were talking to some sororities about living off the grid so to speak but no one has bought off on that because they don't think they can compete.

ASU is in a housing predicament. The entire Greek community for that matter. The Chapters continue to grow. Total is now set at 173 and they are expecting a huge recruitment for F2014 1500-1800. In addition, there is really not a spot on campus large enough to hold our recruitment AND they do it during school. I think we need to make some major changes to the recruitment schedule and add those 2 houses waiting in the wings. It will be interesting to see what happens this year with recruitment and how big the numbers are but PC class of more then 70 are hard to manage and having no space to meet makes it challenging. Finding a room for chapter meetings is almost impossible. I could go on and on with the challenges of having a facility that only holds 32 women.

[2013PNM]

As a current chapter member at Alabama, we are in serious need of an expansion. The size of our chapters is getting out of hand, my pledge class ended up being over to 130 girls after the two COB periods that every chapter participated in this year (Fall and Spring).
I feel a new chapter could be very successful with the growing number of PNMs going through recruitment. Alpha Phi and DG are wonderful examples of how well new chapters have done on campus.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by 2013PNM

As a current chapter member at Alabama, we are in serious need of an expansion. The size of our chapters is getting out of hand, my pledge class ended up being over to 130 girls after the two COB periods that every chapter participated in this year (Fall and Spring).
I feel a new chapter could be very successful with the growing number of PNMs going through recruitment. Alpha Phi and DG are wonderful examples of how well new chapters have done on campus.

I think a lot of the problem at Alabama is that they have priced themselves out of the market. There are a couple of groups that are not presently on campus that could probably make the financial commitment, but not all 26 groups could. Additionally, some of the groups not already on campus have zero name recognition in Alabama and would be taking a HUGE risk to go on there. I could see maybe 3 additional NPCs taking the plunge there, but that's about it.

(And all of that is totally my opinion, I don't know the inner workings of any NPC.)

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by 2013PNM

As a current chapter member at Alabama, we are in serious need of an expansion. The size of our chapters is getting out of hand, my pledge class ended up being over to 130 girls after the two COB periods that every chapter participated in this year.

Current total is, I believe, 260...which is pretty staggering. Many chapters are 300+.

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I think a lot of the problem at Alabama is that they have priced themselves out of the market. There are a couple of groups that are not presently on campus that could probably make the financial commitment, but not all 26 groups could.

The thing is - the present arrangement for building loans with the university is just...unprecendented, anywhere. UA is investing in Greek housing by loaning the money for building. UA owns the land, and always will. If a chapter defaults, UA gets the building. Any other time or place, the chapter would have to go to commercial lenders, which is really difficult with no collateral. It's the best time in history to bring a chapter onto campus.
But it's also the most expensive time.
I can't even wrap my head around a mortgage payment for a $12 million loan.
And what happens when, inevitably, it becomes uncool to be Greek and membership numbers drop?

[2013PNM]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Current total is, I believe, 260...which is pretty staggering. Many chapters are 300+.

Chapter total is 360.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by 2013PNM

(U of Alabama's )Chapter total is 360.

That's right! I thought 260 didn't sound correct. Thanks, 2013PNM!