11 yr olds cupcake "business" shut down by local government agency....

[StealthMode]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Nice try, though, Max.

That's what I was going to say.

Dee, that's terrible about your friend. She sounds so kind! I wonder what would have happened if she had kept cooking and just refused when people offered her money.

[tuco99]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Yeah, something tells me that the local health inspector isn't really in the position to do much about deporting undocumented aliens.

Fail. ARe you flipping on your applicable law requirements? YOUR main point was the kid was running a business and applicable law. There are MANY agencies that regulate business. Illegals do billions worth of illegal business. Do you think there are any applicalbe law issues that apply?

[tuco99]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

If it goes beyond lemonade stand at the end of the driveway or school bake sale, it should be treated like a real business. It is FOOD, after all. And $200 a month to me says real business.

Where do the people operating hot dog carts go to the bathroom and wash their hands?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by tuco99

Where do the people operating hot dog carts go to the bathroom and wash their hands?

In bathrooms.

Most cities create criteria for all of this stuff prior to allowing hot dog carts to exist.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by tuco99

Fail. ARe you flipping on your applicable law requirements? YOUR main point was the kid was running a business and applicable law. There are MANY agencies that regulate business. Illegals do billions worth of illegal business. Do you think there are any applicalbe law issues that apply?

So what exactly are you trying to say?

That because illegals, there should be no enforcement of a health code and other laws?

[tuco99]

Originally Posted by Kevin

So what exactly are you trying to say?

That because illegals, there should be no enforcement of a health code and other laws?

The point is there are bigger fish to fry.

Her first point was the kid was running a business. I say go after the bigger business with many times the violations. Her next excuse is the kid is in the food service business and my point is go after the food vendors doing MILLIONS of dollars in business. Have you ever seen the back of a busy restaurant, slaughter house or the inside of a food processing plant?


YOu are worried about a kid selling cupcakes to a few family friends.
What is your point? Are you saving the world by eliminate $200 worth of illegal cupcakes that are probably healthier than most of the slop you eat at a restaurant?

[tuco99]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

In bathrooms.

Most cities create criteria for all of this stuff prior to allowing hot dog carts to exist.

Keep dreaming. They create the criteria yet rarely enforce it. The food truck operators are probably going in a bucket under the counter. The hot dog carts guys are probably going in an alley. If YOU are lucky they use a real bathroom and MIGHT wash their hands. Even if they do wash their hands they still handle tons of cash(which is very dirty) and do NOT wash their hands after handling the cash.

The health dept is too busy busting kids lemonade stands and cupcake stands doing $200 a month to check on the hot dog carts.

You can find tons of videos on line.


I like this video. A vendor at a Houston Astros game goes to the toilet to take a deuce and he puts the food on the floor in the stall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyCpTHBqqtA

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by tuco99

The point is there are bigger fish to fry.

Her first point was the kid was running a business. I say go after the bigger business with many times the violations. Her next excuse is the kid is in the food service business and my point is go after the food vendors doing MILLIONS of dollars in business. Have you ever seen the back of a busy restaurant, slaughter house or the inside of a food processing plant?


YOu are worried about a kid selling cupcakes to a few family friends.
What is your point? Are you saving the world by eliminate $200 worth of illegal cupcakes that are probably healthier than most of the slop you eat at a restaurant?

How do you know there are bigger or other fish to fry? How do you know the government in this municipality isn't already doing everything it can to make sure everyone complies with the health code?

[SWTXBelle]

DID YOU KNOW - there are multiple law enforcement agencies which take care of different aspects of the law. Mind blowing, I know, but health departments take care of health department regulations, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) takes care of immigration law.

Whew - I'm sure you're relieved to know that you don't have to count on health departments to enforce any thing other than health department regulations and law.

Given your ability to spot illegal immigrants merely by their appearance at a "restaurant, slaughter house or the inside of a food processing plant", tuco, I'd think you could carve out a great career for yourself with the ICE.

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

DID YOU KNOW - there are multiple law enforcement agencies which take care of different aspects of the law. Mind blowing, I know, but health departments take care of health department regulations, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) takes care of immigration law.

Whew - I'm sure you're relieved to know that you don't have to count on health departments to enforce any thing other than health department regulations and law.

Given your ability to spot illegal immigrants merely by their appearance at a "restaurant, slaughter house or the inside of a food processing plant", tuco, I'd think you could carve out a great career for yourself with the ICE.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by tuco99

Fail. ARe you flipping on your applicable law requirements? YOUR main point was the kid was running a business and applicable law. There are MANY agencies that regulate business. Illegals do billions worth of illegal business. Do you think there are any applicalbe law issues that apply?

Sure—the main one being that only the federal government has the power to deport. State and local governments, including health inspection agencies, do not have that power. What the local health inspector did here is irrelevant to questions of what the federal government is or isn't doing about undocumented aliens.

[pinksequins]

The OP's and Tuco's lack of basic understanding of law and government is sad.

[tuco99]

Originally Posted by pinksequins

The OP's and Tuco's lack of basic understanding of law and government is sad.

California politicans must not understand government either.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/institut...al-businesses/

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by tuco99

California politicans must not understand government either.

They understand government quite well. It is you who is confused.

Federal, state, and local government are not without challenge and change. People simply have to take the correct measures. If Illinois wants to make the necessary formal changes, there will be guidelines and regulations to allow some people to sell food in certain settings.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by tuco99

California politicans must not understand government either.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/institut...al-businesses/

The California legislature passed a law allowing for cottage food industries, Illinois does not have such a statute. What is your point?