Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[GammaPhi-L-L]

I was a grad student in the student activities office and saw IU recruitment first-hand. It is brutal. As my user name suggests, my undergraduate experience was much different. Sorority recruitment and the entire system is part of what makes IU. The entire system is exclusive, and I think the administration likes it that way.

I have advised many PNMs during their IU recruitment. The ones that have happy endings were usually the ones who kept their options open - cut and kept a variety of houses (yes, they can cut a "coveted" house, after the first party even). One who had a particularly difficult time was a little disappointed with her options but pledged anyway. Many were too selective and dropped out when they weren't invited back to certain houses. This young woman competed on the Little 5 team her freshman year and then became captain. She had the time of her life. All of the IU sororities and fraternities to do the same things. There are best friends and buttheads in all of them.

While I feel bad for the women who feel hurt on bid day, I get over it. I don't know very many first-hand accounts of women who maximize their options and don't receive a bid. Just keep and open mind from the beginning of the process, not just the end. As long as women drop out because they don't get into certain sororities, exclusivity wins.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by GammaPhi-L-L

I don't know very many first-hand accounts of women who maximize their options and don't receive a bid. Just keep and open mind from the beginning of the process, not just the end.
As long as women drop out because they don't get into certain sororities, exclusivity wins.

wait…what?

Are we talking about the same campus where a PNM can attend up to three Preference parties and end up bidless? That, surely, means that a PNM has maximized her options.

That has nothing to do with exclusivity.

Your personal first-hand knowledge is limited to just that; more research is needed.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by GammaPhi-L-L

I was a grad student in the student activities office and saw IU recruitment first-hand. It is brutal. As my user name suggests, my undergraduate experience was much different. Sorority recruitment and the entire system is part of what makes IU. The entire system is exclusive, and I think the administration likes it that way.

I have advised many PNMs during their IU recruitment. The ones that have happy endings were usually the ones who kept their options open - cut and kept a variety of houses (yes, they can cut a "coveted" house, after the first party even). One who had a particularly difficult time was a little disappointed with her options but pledged anyway. Many were too selective and dropped out when they weren't invited back to certain houses. This young woman competed on the Little 5 team her freshman year and then became captain. She had the time of her life. All of the IU sororities and fraternities to do the same things. There are best friends and buttheads in all of them.

While I feel bad for the women who feel hurt on bid day, I get over it. I don't know very many first-hand accounts of women who maximize their options and don't receive a bid. Just keep and open mind from the beginning of the process, not just the end. As long as women drop out because they don't get into certain sororities, exclusivity wins.

Apparently you do NOT understand what maximizing your options really means. If a PNM maximizes her options at any other school, she will walk out of recruitment with a bid to a sorority. At IU, there are fewer spots than number of women in recruitment so even if every single PNM maximized her options, 30% or so would still go home empty handed on bid day. It's nice that you can be so cavalier about a situation just because you personally don't know any of the women affected first hand. It is plainly obvious that it does happen, however. Claiming that this is just IU is like saying that saying "water is wet." We know. It doesn't make it right.

[naraht]

Just as a note, IU Panhel is in the process of expansion. Prior to this year they had 21 of the 26 Panhel Sororities and with the expansion this semester (DPhiE chosen over AST) they will have 22. The other three members of the PHC not on the campus are PhiSig, SK and Tri-Sig.

But with the numbers that went through this year, I'm not sure that even if they added all of the rest with similar sized houses that everyone would have gotten a bid.

http://bl-ids-website.ads.iu.edu/new....aspx?id=95066

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by naraht

Just as a note, IU Panhel is in the process of expansion. Prior to this year they had 21 of the 26 Panhel Sororities and with the expansion this semester (DPhiE chosen over AST) they will have 22. The other three members of the PHC not on the campus are PhiSig, SK and Tri-Sig.

But with the numbers that went through this year, I'm not sure that even if they added all of the rest with similar sized houses that everyone would have gotten a bid.

http://bl-ids-website.ads.iu.edu/new....aspx?id=95066

Alpha Sigma Tau is the 4th that is not represented at IU.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Alpha Sigma Tau is the 4th that is not represented at IU.

I know, I thought that was clear in stating that DPhiE was selected over AST and thus AST didn't have to be repeated. I guess not.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by naraht

Just as a note, IU Panhel is in the process of expansion. Prior to this year they had 21 of the 26 Panhel Sororities and with the expansion this semester (DPhiE chosen over AST) they will have 22. The other three members of the PHC not on the campus are PhiSig, SK and Tri-Sig.

But with the numbers that went through this year, I'm not sure that even if they added all of the rest with similar sized houses that everyone would have gotten a bid.

http://bl-ids-website.ads.iu.edu/new....aspx?id=95066

I didn't even realize we had presented. Interesting.

Do we think that all 26 will one day be at IU? If so, how long will it take, assuming the bed quota system doesn't change?

[naraht]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I didn't even realize we had presented. Interesting.

Do we think that all 26 will one day be at IU? If so, how long will it take, assuming the bed quota system doesn't change?

Does any school have all 26? And given the number who didn't get a bid this time, I'm not sure that having all 26 will be enough.

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by naraht

Does any school have all 26? And given the number who didn't get a bid this time, I'm not sure that having all 26 will be enough.

No, there is not a campus where all 26 are represented. IU now has the most with 21 now, 22 next week.