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Originally Posted by seraphimsprite
Recruitment at IU is absolutely brutal and I'm not defending it, but the statistician in me is really cringing at this. I've seen a few people in this thread tossing around similar numbers but it's comparing apples to oranges with the statistics. IU's placement rate was 64% in 2013, which is undeniably low, but it is the percentage of registered women who received bids. That includes the women who were dropped for grades, those who were released before preference and the women who dropped out. If you calculate U of I placement in the same way, their placement rate is about 71%. At Miami of Ohio, 70% of the women registered received bids in 2013.
The comparable statistic to the 97% figure for U of I is 88% for IU (at least for 2013, I don't know how it will shake out this year.) Of the 1160 women who attended preference at IU, 1025 received bids. Now I'm of the opinion that if you go all the way through the process and maximize your options you should get a bid (barring exceptional circumstances) so I think 88% is still too low of a placement rate at that point in the process. But that's the figure we should be comparing to the argument that 95% or more of the women at other schools are placed. (For additional comparison for fellow statistics geeks - at Miami of Ohio the comparable placement rate is 92% and at Alabama a very impressive 99.5% of the women who attended preference received bids in 2012!)
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Thank you so much for your statistics...
I know the process at Bama well. If the girls get a call back for Pref night and they agree to any of the houses they get back (i.e. they do not suicide) they will automatically be put into one of the houses. They are not guaranteed their first choice, but they are guaranteed one of the houses. I do believe this is how it should be, bc by the time you get to that point, you are so stressed and spent it is beyond disappointing to the girls. Also, Bama does put a lot of weight on grades. The girls that are often cut are the girls who do not have good grades. Their system encourages very high GPAs so if you come in from HS for instance, (their rush is at the beginning of the year) with a lower GPA, it is VERY hard to get callbacks. They are pressured to keep their house GPAs up, some houses more than others.
I think that it should still be the preference of the sorority to give the bids, but I do agree that maybe all houses should have the pledge classes of similar size, but then again, it is up to the headquarters of the sorority. ZTA's headquarters encouraged them to take a larger class, not only to have more members but to leverage the members to allow them to make more money and be more involved with their philanthropy.
I think everyone feels the same way, no one wants girls to be sad, disconnected or be rejected. I have two girls myself and my heart breaks for these girls (and it will for mine), but it is a selection process. Unfortunately, it will always be that the in state girls will inevitably be at an advantage too, bc they may know someone in XXX house etc. I was not in state and I remember all the in state girls knowing EVERYBODY!
Everyone just needs to be kind. Sorority girls are not intentionally mean (most that is), it is brutal on the other side too. We are not in "ivory towers" we are not insensitive. We cry too, we cry for our friends who did not get in, we cry for our girls that do not choose us that we really wanted...we are human and not ice queens. I think we must remember one thing...
We as women should be supporting each other not breaking each other down...
So thank you for these statistics. Thank you thank you!
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