Winners, losers emerge in UA sorority race debate

Thank you Blue Skies and Yes, Tichou that is exactly what I am talking about. Sorry Dr Phil was offended. If I wanted to pledge a NPHC sorority, I would be a minority. If my child, who was born in India, wanted to pledge an NPC sorority at Bama, she would be a minority. It would not offend her to be called so, nor would I be offended.
Too bad real discussion can't be done in this thread. The subject is something I have done my part to change over the past 20 years. I am very happy these young women spoke up and even more happy at the pact the NPC sororities have made.
Contrary to what many of you apparently believe all Alabama Greek Alums are not prejudiced and even more difficult for you to believe is that those of us who grew up in the 60s are even less so. But then, we are the women who fought with our sisters of all races in the business world to open doors that were closed to women of all races.
Thank you.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Bama54

Sorry Dr Phil was offended.

Not to worry. I'm pretty sure DrPhil wasn't offended.

If I wanted to pledge a NPHC sorority, I would be a minority. If my child, who was born in India, wanted to pledge an NPC sorority at Bama, she would be a minority. It would not offend her to be called so, nor would I be offended.

If you've been doing your part to change things over the last 20 years, then I'm sure that you're well aware that generally, "minorities" means non-whites, and that the word has not just situational meanings (like a white person in an NPHC org), but deeper and broader historical and cultural meanings.

Too bad real discussion can't be done in this thread.

Of course real discussion can be "done." At least it can unless newbies make pronouncements out of the gate about how there can' the any "real discussions"—pronouncements that easily come across as attempts to deflect real discussion.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

If you've been doing your part to change things over the last 20 years, then I'm sure that you're well aware that generally, "minorities" means non-whites, and that the word has not just situational meanings (like a white person in an NPHC org), but deeper and broader historical and cultural meanings.

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From Dictionary.com "minority."

3. group differing, especially in race, religion, or ethnic background, from the majority of a population

There was a time I was a minority at my job. I certainly was a minority at Bidgood Hall (the building that housed the school of business when I was at Alabama) and I was a minority when I worked in Haiti.

Oh and I have watched this forum for a while here and there. Even though I am retired, I don't have the time or inclination to make 100s of posting on chat boards.

So that being said, if anyone has the information and wants to be kind enough to ask the question originally asked, thank you.

I won't respond further to immature and rude comments.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Bama54

From Dictionary.com "minority."

3. group differing, especially in race, religion, or ethnic background, from the majority of a population.

And in this country, unlike Haiti, the majority of the population is white, so the minority is non-white. People, particularly white people, who use the words "minority" or "minorities" without further explanation or qualification rarely if ever mean anything else unless they (1) qualify how they were or are a minority, like by being a white student at an HBCU, and (2) are trying to suggest that that experience gives them an understanding of what it's like to be non-white in American society.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Bama54

Thank you Blue Skies and Yes, Tichou that is exactly what I am talking about. Sorry Dr Phil was offended. If I wanted to pledge a NPHC sorority, I would be a minority. If my child, who was born in India, wanted to pledge an NPC sorority at Bama, she would be a minority. It would not offend her to be called so, nor would I be offended.
Too bad real discussion can't be done in this thread. The subject is something I have done my part to change over the past 20 years. I am very happy these young women spoke up and even more happy at the pact the NPC sororities have made.
Contrary to what many of you apparently believe all Alabama Greek Alums are not prejudiced and even more difficult for you to believe is that those of us who grew up in the 60s are even less so. But then, we are the women who fought with our sisters of all races in the business world to open doors that were closed to women of all races.
Thank you.

It's great that you're participating here. Don't feel too attacked here, you've just come out and stated how you have fought with your sisters of all races in the business world, but back at (I'm assuming) your alma mater, all it took to really get a lot of folks at least give the issue lip service was for ONE collegian to come out about it in a public manner.