School Shooting Newtown CT

[AOII Angel]

You should use the facetious smiley next time. It's hard to read that intent over the Internet. The rest, tl;dr.

[KSUViolet06]

Students recently returned to school. I couldn't imagine.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2395664.html

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by ElvisLover

Just for everyone's safety, and I say this with all due respect; that lock on my front door is for your protection, not mine.

When I lived in Louisiana we never locked our door...never.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Yes it appears that NY is a little more lax in the release of that information but it doesn't answer the question of why they did it or what they were hoping to achieve with this.

Nor was it intended to answer that question. (I haven't a clue what they thought they were achieving. Whatever it was, I suspect they failed.)

All it was answering was the assertion that sunshine laws didn't apply to CHL permits.

Originally Posted by ElvisLover

Just for everyone's safety, and I say this with all due respect; that lock on my front door is for your protection, not mine.

I'm sure we all appreciate the warning.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

If we the people were as irresponsible with firearms as some activists and politicians pretend we are how come we aren't having 1,000+ shootings a day? More people are killed in DUI related car accidents every year in the U.S. than gun homicides (not including suicides). Typically gun crimes are committed by people using stolen or illegally obtained firearms, not CHL holders, so why make them the target?

Haven't been reading the hometown papers lately, eh?

[ElvisLover]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

When I lived in Louisiana we never locked our door...never.

I also remember a time when no one had to lock their doors in the South or other regions of the country. It's such a shame that it has come to this.

[ElvisLover]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Nor was it intended to answer that question. (I haven't a clue what they thought they were achieving. Whatever it was, I suspect they failed.)

All it was answering was the assertion that sunshine laws didn't apply to CHL permits.

I'm sure we all appreciate the warning.

You are all most welcome!

[Psi U MC Vito]

So I was reading something about a second shooting that just happened in CO and somebody posted this as their anti-gun control argument

Resisting Tyranny
Guns help citizens resist tyranny and the abuse of power, and the Constitution guarantees that right. However, the political Left wants nothing more than to take all guns from the people. A populace without guns can easily fall prey to oppressive governments. These governments are then free to do whatever they want, including murder their citizens.
Don't think this can happen? It did in the USSR (61,000,000 people killed), Communist China (45,000,000 people killed), Germany (13,000,000 people killed), Cambodia (2,000,000 people killed), Turkey (1,500,000 people killed), Uganda (300,000 people killed), Guatemala (100,000 people killed), and many others. http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/rkba-12.html
The current claim is that only so-called "assault weapons" need to be outlawed. Realistically, these theoretical "assault weapons" aren’t even equal to what the military carries. They cannot shoot in fully automatic mode like the military rifles can. They provide the absolute minimum level of firearm that one might need to resist an oppressive and tyrannical government.
Senator Dianne Feinstein of California once again is leading the gun control effort. She has admitted that she would like to confiscate every gun in America. http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne...n-in-your-guns.
The role of government is to protect its citizens. If needed, you can call the police against a gang member. Who do you call if you are being attacked by the government? While this may not be necessary today, this is exactly the protection that the framers of the Constitution wanted to provide to the citizens of this country.
Please do all you can to share this and work to protect your basic freedoms for now, and in the future!

I wonder if they really believe some guy with a AR-15 is going to stop a Abrams MBT.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Haven't been reading the hometown papers lately, eh?

No I don't what you are trying to get at.

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

So I was reading something about a second shooting that just happened in CO and somebody posted this as their anti-gun control argument



I wonder if they really believe some guy with a AR-15 is going to stop a Abrams MBT.

Really? Have you been living in a cave this last decade (War in Iraq)? Are you not familiar with the concept of Guerrilla warfare and insurgencies and the extreme damages that they've done to standing armies (with tanks) throughout history?

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

No I don't what you are trying to get at.

Tongue in cheek... there are probably 1000 shootings a day in the D.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Tongue in cheek... there are probably 1000 shootings a day in the D.

LOL...oh you... You sound like one of the not from Detroit haters out there. Detroit had 350 homicides (not all were gun related) in 2012 and 344 in 2011. Clearly not great but nowhere near having 1000 shootings a day.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Really? Have you been living in a cave this last decade (War in Iraq)? Are you not familiar with the concept of Guerrilla warfare and insurgencies and the extreme damages that they've done to standing armies (with tanks) throughout history?

I am familiar with the concept of Guerrilla warfare. It is a very effective technique, but it relies on a political victory, not a military one. The point of Asymmetrical Warfare is to make the other guys decide that the benefit of conquering the territory doesn't outweigh all the damage they take in doing so. So for a invading army it is one thing. For a government that is tyrannical and willing to do anything to stay in power? Also said tyrannical government wouldn't hesitate because of something like collateral damage, which is one of the big issues in the war in the Middle East right now. Also I actually am not aware of any examples when a force without specialized weaponry did significant damage to a superior force. Iraq and Afghanistan we are dealing with anti-armor weapons. Which I remind you was given to them by an outside force.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

LOL...oh you... You sound like one of the not from Detroit haters out there. Detroit had 350 homicides (not all were gun related) in 2012 and 344 in 2011. Clearly not great but nowhere near having 1000 shootings a day.

Not everybody who gets shot actually dies... I thought 2012 was at 414 as of early December though.

[ASTalumna06]

And it starts...

There are now articles and an official website (which I refuse to link to here) which claim that the whole shooting was a hoax set up by our government in order to pass new gun legislation.

So sad. What's even more upsetting to me is that some of my Facebook friends are buying into some of it and questioning certain accounts of what happened. Ugh.

[adpimiz]

I was just about to post something about this. A lot of my Facebook friends are posting videos about it all.