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Old 08-03-2012, 05:30 PM
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I really don't see anything wrong with this.

The girl was 15, not 12.

Also, traffic citations? With her record, she really needs to take care of her tickets.

Charlene Elizabeth Bratton plead guilty to drug trafficking in 2008 and again in 2009. She plead guilty to possession of marijuana in 2009. This lady is a felon and if she's saying that her daughter was just standing there innocently and was tazed, I'm not buying it.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:33 PM
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The girl was 15, not 12.
Dejamon Baker is 12 years old. Dejamon Baker was tasered by the police officer.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:39 PM
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Dejamon Baker is 12 years old. Dejamon Baker was tasered by the police officer.
Whatever. Looking at the mother's record, I'm not buying the mother's story, nor the daughters. If you interfere with a police officer and only get the tazer and no criminal charges, that's a good day.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:46 PM
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Whatever.
No, not whatever. Dejamon Baker is 12 years old.

I can understand a CHILD crying and being frantic if a parent is being (what the child may perceive as) randomly arrested at the mall. The 12-year-old CHILD was the only person tasered.

Controlling for her mother's traffic warrants, perhaps you would view tasering a 12 year old child differently if she looked like this 12 year old girl:


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Old 08-03-2012, 05:53 PM
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No, not whatever. Dejamon Baker is 12 years old.

Controlling for her mother's traffic warrants, perhaps you would view tasering a 12 year old child differently if she looked like this 12 year old girl:

Nope and what a classless move to even suggest as much.

I don't care how old the child was. If she was not obeying lawful orders and the officer followed appropriate procedures for escalation of force, that's all I care about. Ultimately, what the officer did prevented all involved from escalating the violence any further and much to my surprise, only the mother went to jail that day. It sounds like the officer used a lot of discretion in not charging the other individuals who were interfering.

From the story, apparently another adult was also engaged in the resistance. This felon-mother wasn't going away quietly.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:09 PM
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Nope and what a classless move to even suggest as much.
You should have stuck with "no" and left out the "classless" edit. You would not be the first person whose opinions are shaped by appearance.



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I don't care how old the child was.
If I did not think the words "class," "classy," and "classless," were really stupid when not dealing with social class and socioeconomic status, I would say that it is "classless" for you to believe that a child of any age should be tased.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:19 PM
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You should have stuck with "no" and left out the "classless" edit. You would not be the first person whose opinions are shaped by appearance.
My first edit was a lot more crass. What you implied there was a jackass thing to imply.

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If I did not think the words "class," "classy," and "classless," were really stupid when not dealing with social class and socioeconomic status, I would say that it is "classless" for you to believe that a child of any age should be tased.
I'm sure the officer would have loved to hear you lecture him about class and white privilege and such while he was effecting an arrest on a felon with her 12-year old and other adults interfering in the arrest.

If you don't pay your tickets, you go to the pokey. You resist a police officer, you get hurt. Actions have consequences and stupidity knows no race or class.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:40 PM
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I really don't see anything wrong with this.
You're KKKevin, so I would be surprised if you said the opposite. Have a seat dude. You're an arrogant, dumbass idiot.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:44 PM
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You're KKKevin, so I would be surprised if you said the opposite. Have a seat dude. You're an arrogant, dumbass idiot.
Oh how clever...

So are you also taking the drug trafficker's word over the police officer? Clearly it was white privilege that made the felon shop at an expensive undergarments store instead of paying her traffic tickets.

Clearly.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:47 PM
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Oh how clever...

So are you also taking the drug trafficker's word over the police officer? Clearly it was white privilege that made the felon shop at an expensive undergarments store instead of paying her traffic tickets.

Clearly.
Fuck the police officer. Bottom line is dude tased a 12 year old, which was unnecessary. You're one of those mofos who doesn't give a shit about anybody but himself.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:07 PM
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Fuck the police officer. Bottom line is dude tased a 12 year old, which was unnecessary. You're one of those mofos who doesn't give a shit about anybody but himself.
You weren't there. I give a shit about the police officer who was arresting a multiple felon who was being interfered with by another adult and a young lady who got tasered and likely deserved it. If the St. Louis PD stands behind him, so do I. If new facts emerge, that could change. Until that time, I'll take the word of a law enforcement officer over that of a convicted drug trafficker.

Who I don't give a shit about is the arrested individual unless you can demonstrate her rights were somehow violated and the child and adult who interfered with an officer. Hope they learned their lesson.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:52 PM
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You weren't there. I give a shit about the police officer who was arresting a multiple felon who was being interfered with by another adult and a young lady who got tasered and likely deserved it. If the St. Louis PD stands behind him, so do I. If new facts emerge, that could change. Until that time, I'll take the word of a law enforcement officer over that of a convicted drug trafficker.
And this is what makes you so fucking stupid. If you had a 12-year old daughter, and a police officer tased her for whatever reason, you would be the first mofo having a cow over the shit.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:56 PM
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And this is what makes you so fucking stupid. If you had a 12-year old daughter, and a police officer tased her for whatever reason, you would be the first mofo having a cow over the shit.
Especially if I was a drug trafficking felon who didn't take a bit of personal responsibility for raising a child who was idiot enough to interfere in my arrest.

I would never and have never had an outstanding citation of any kind, so that's just a fun hypothetical that'll never come to fruition.

Nice try though, cheerleader.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:55 PM
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Oh how clever...

So are you also taking the drug trafficker's word over the police officer? Clearly it was white privilege that made the felon shop at an expensive undergarments store instead of paying her traffic tickets.

Clearly.
Your brain is still on page 1 of this thread. Fix that. And you are the only one who brought up and keeps bringing up white privilege in this thread.

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Racist, and arrogant too.

I do not call individuals racist. But, he's definitely unrelentingly slow.

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Old 08-06-2012, 11:04 PM
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Your brain is still on page 1 of this thread. Fix that. And you are the only one who brought up and keeps bringing up white privilege in this thread.
Sure, you've evolved since then and moved on. It doesn't matter that this was a CHILD or actually, no, you pretty much haven't backed off of that one. Perhaps you can educate us on how your world view has evolved since then? It is now okay to taser a CHILD or it never is? You were wanting guidelines and casting racial aspersions and refusing to commit to anything and now I'm the slow one?

Jesus Christ.
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