African American going through recruitment at Alabama?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Titchou

First of all, I was not judgmental and rude.

Yes, you were. And you made huge assumptions.

OP's original post was rather "loose" in language and information - loose enough to wonder if she had the required GPA and recs.

Not at all.

You have a very valid point about the OP being easily identifiable, and there is good advice to be given about that. But the advice was lost in unnecessary (and judgmental and rude) assumptions on your part.

[Titchou]

As my father said to me many times, I only know what you say, not what you mean to say.

[DrPhil]

All of this because the OP used "wanna" three times in her second post?

[HQWest]

OP- I was there when the first AA girl pledged at a chapter i advised - that was 15 years ago. She had friends in the chapter from her high school, and she was welcomed with open arms. She was a great sister too.

Alabama is a tough nut to crack - because there are so many ladies going through. The "top tier" already has a list of favorites and legacies that they have known about since they started high school, and usually they have to work to cut that list down. UAB, Auburn, USM, Ole Miss all have AA members - but there just arent very many AA women that go through at The big "Old South" schools.

A lot of girls will get cut, its not because they dont like you. Its probably they dont know you.

[Oneperson]

Originally Posted by Yoquierotacobel

I'm not aiming at any particular house because I have yet to know who I would fit in with and have a connection with. I know many girls go into Alabama recruitment with a particular house in mind...my sister is pressuring me into one of the Old Row sororities because she happens to be an active member of that particular sorority...

So YOU, OP, are not African American? I'm sorry, I had the impression that you were because of what you were asking. I apologize.
I am amused by you "not aiming at a particular house." PNMs have the mistaken assumption that they're going to "go for" a particular house/sorority. In formal recruitment, PNMs have less control than they think. But you could be one of those rare PNMs that everyone wants.

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

Although OnePerson MAY be correct, this opinion might be outdated and overblown.

I assure you my opinion and info are current as of the 2011 formal recruitment.

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

I do agree that if a chapter were going to take their chances on you, it would be one of the higher prestige chapters. The one or two who struggle for quota every year probably can't take the risk of becoming that house with the black girl.

It would have to be for the reason you mentioned in the second sentence. But it will probably be an icy day in hell for the top groups will do it. In my crystal ball, it will be one of the smaller groups that does it...like last time. Then another one, but not 10 or 15 years later, a lot quicker. Then another one. Eventually the "old row" sororities will join...after some of the top fraternities begin admitting AAs.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Oneperson

But it's important for more and more and more AA women to sign up and go through. Because you can't pledge if you don't try. Because it will remain a problem in hiding if you don't sign up and go through. Because somebody's got to do it.

Yes. Duh. I'm not downplaying the situation or equating being African-American to any of the following, but it's the same at a school where athletes never go Greek...or people in the theater department never do...etc etc etc. It will never happen if you keep listening to the people who say it never happens.

Also take into consideration that I'm sure many African-American women are feeling pressure (from gentle to strong, depending on family and friends' involvement) to join NPHC groups, and they probably know that if they do go through NPC rush, the NPHC group of their choice may look at them differently.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Titchou

As my father said to me many times, I only know what you say, not what you mean to say.

Exactly. So while you may not have meant to be rude and judgmental, all we have to go by is what you said, which came across that way.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Also, Titchou...it's "through" not "thru." Or is it only OK for you to truncate words in your posts?

Please see Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition, page 1226, second column, 4th from bottom:

thru var of THROUGH

[knight_shadow]

Are y'all fucking kidding me?

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Exactly. So while you may not have meant to be rude and judgmental, all we have to go by is what you said, which came across that way.

And I meant to be judgmental - we all are here. Being truthful by calling attention to what she said is not being rude - unless, of course, what she said was rude to begin with.

And BTW everyone, she said her sister is a member of one of the groups at Alabama BUT AT ANOTHER SCHOOL.

Thank you.

[mom3boys]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Why are you quoting me and citing the use of profanity?

I quoted you because of your pointing out the lesser of the grammar infractions. I liked what you wrote, so I quoted it.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Oneperson

So YOU, OP, are not African American? I'm sorry, I had the impression that you were because of what you were asking. I apologize.

She is. Her sister is on another campus.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Titchou

First of all, I was not judgmental and rude.

Originally Posted by Titchou

And I meant to be judgmental

Good grief. Pick one -- judgmental or not -- and stick with it.

-- we all are here. Being truthful by calling attention to what she said is not being rude - unless, of course, what she said was rude to begin with.

There's a difference between being truthful by calling attention to what someone says and making assumptions based on what they didn't say or a few things like "wanna" -- assumptions that the OP has since said are wrong.

[ellebud]

A comment on the assumption that the OP had a less than stellar gpa: At least out here the only kids with college acceptances at athletes, Early Decision or Early Action. The qualify for the last two, you've got to have a great resume and gpa.

So...the OP had to very good to outstanding credentials.

[Yoquierotacobel]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

^^^ OP: is U of A ARIZONA?

Oh - probably not, sigh. Whenever I see U of A, I immediately think of Arizona. Someone can correct me on this: I usually see 'Bama and Auburn written, not abbreviations like "UofA" for those schools. On GC I also learned that it's UT, not UTA or UT Austin. Let's see - what else? Oh yes! "Ole Miss" and THE Ohio State University (I still don't quite understand the latter).

Speaking of Auburn, how are the trees doing?

Anyway, at Arizona we don't have any "old row" or "circle"; and we have 11 (soon to be 12 as Alpha Chi Omega is returning in 2013) fine chapters. You can probably connect the rest of the dots.

There is another school 100 miles up the road, with a devil mascot, and they have sororities as well. They have much better shopping than we do in Tucson. But it's PHOENIX, blechh. Not much good to say about that, although I do have some GC friends up there, so it's not entirely hopeless.

Sorry for the confusion. U of A meaning University of Arkansas(razorbacks), UA('bama) & UT Austin(University of Texas)

Sorry for the confusion. I should have been more specific.