discrimination

sammysammy225 · #1 01-12-2012, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Neither you nor your "friend" know the reason(s) he did not receive a bid. That he did not receive a bid from multiple fraternities indicates there was a consistent uncertainty about his fitness as a member, for whatever reason.

No one can force a private organization to admit any member nor can they force a private organization to reveal their selection process or reasons for declining someone's membership. If this is bothering your "friend" so much, it's probably time for a visit to student health to discuss his feelings. No amount of questioning strangers on the internet, appealing to the fraternities involved or threats of legal action are going to change his non-member status.

Right no one knows the reasons, except for the letter written by one of the fraternities in an attempt to be cruel?

My question bore on the level of what to do.

There is some level of personal and emotional vestment coming in these responses. is there some personal fear of anyone with a learning disability being admitted in your fraternity or sorority?

PiKA2001 · #2 01-12-2012, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sammysammy225

Right no one knows the reasons, except for the letter written by one of the fraternities in an attempt to be cruel?

My question bore on the level of what to do.

There is some level of personal and emotional vestment coming in these responses. is there some personal fear of anyone with a learning disability being admitted in your fraternity or sorority?

As are in the questions...

WhiteRose1912 · #3 01-12-2012, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sammysammy225

There is some level of personal and emotional vestment coming in these responses. is there some personal fear of anyone with a learning disability being admitted in your fraternity or sorority?

If we told you that disabilities were scary, gross things and we have never let anyone who has disabilities into our Greek systems, and we never ever EVER will, would that satisfy you? It really seems like that's what you're fishing for.

Everyone has already answered your questions adequately and, I think, rather politely considering your attitude. You're trying to pick fights. We had nothing to do with you/your friend being rejected. Your beef is not with us. Sorry if you don't like the answers provided.

Old_Row · #4 01-12-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sammysammy225

Right no one knows the reasons, except for the letter written by one of the fraternities in an attempt to be cruel?

My question bore on the level of what to do.

There is some level of personal and emotional vestment coming in these responses. is there some personal fear of anyone with a learning disability being admitted in your fraternity or sorority?

No one here believes a fraternity would send a letter like this. It isn't done unless you have some kind of local doing their own thing there. The only letter I can see someone sending you is a cease and desist if you're being even 10% as annoying, repetitive and obtuse as you are being here. It certainly isn't rush season and hasn't been for a while, so this shows me you've been pursuing this for quite some time. Not healthy or productive for you, and yeah, I don't think there's any friend involved either.

What to do? See a mental health professional stat. Obsessing about this is not healthy.

sammysammy225 · #5 01-12-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row

No one here believes a fraternity would send a letter like this. It isn't done unless you have some kind of local doing their own thing there. The only letter I can see someone sending you is a cease and desist if you're being even 10% as annoying, repetitive and obtuse as you are being here. It certainly isn't rush season and hasn't been for a while, so this shows me you've been pursuing this for quite some time. Not healthy or productive for you, and yeah, I don't think there's any friend involved either.

What to do? See a mental health professional stat. Obsessing about this is not healthy.

i personally dislike any discrimination in any form, when i see it happen i dislike it.

this was done by the local chapter, i do not even think the national organization is aware of what happened. this letter was just stapled to the dorm's door and was handwritten.

Ghostwriter · #6 01-12-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sammysammy225

i personally dislike any discrimination in any form, when i see it happen i dislike it.

this was done by the local chapter, i do not even think the national organization is aware of what happened. this letter was just stapled to the dorm's door and was handwritten.

So how do you know that it wasn't a different Fraternity trying to get the one you Rushed in trouble? You don't. So give it a rest. Your "lawyer friend" gave you the answer you wanted so move along. Shoo, shoo!

TSteven · #7 01-12-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row

No one here believes a fraternity would send a letter like this. It isn't done unless you have some kind of local doing their own thing there. The only letter I can see someone sending you is a cease and desist if you're being even 10% as annoying, repetitive and obtuse as you are being here. It certainly isn't rush season and hasn't been for a while, so this shows me you've been pursuing this for quite some time.

To the bolded: IFC spring rush is actually happening now at many colleges. By now, I mean the start of the college's spring/winter semester/term.

And yeah, I have never heard of any NIC/IFC chapter sending this type of letter.

Old_Row · #8 01-12-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TSteven

To the bolded: IFC spring rush is actually happening now at many colleges. By now, I mean the start of the college's spring/winter semester/term.

And yeah, I have never heard of any NIC/IFC chapter sending this type of letter.

Do you really think there's been time in this semester to conduct rush, hand out bids, and leave notes on someone's door because he's had enough time to annoy all of you because he's making an ass of himself? Your schools must start very early!

ThetaPrincess24 · #9 01-12-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row

Do you really think there's been time in this semester to conduct rush, hand out bids, and leave notes on someone's door because he's had enough time to annoy all of you because he's making an ass of himself? Your schools must start very early!

It is possible with good planning! My alma mater has spring informal this week for both sororities & fraternities. Monday was the first day back from break. My chapter had functions Monday & Tuesday evening. We gave out bids Tuesday and yesterday and filled all of our spots. I cant speak on rationale for the fraternities, but most of the sororities on campus will hold functions immediately upon returning to campus in order to remain competitive and to recruit the most desired PNMs before someone else does.

TSteven · #10 01-12-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row

Do you really think there's been time in this semester to conduct rush, hand out bids, and leave notes on someone's door because he's had enough time to annoy all of you because he's making an ass of himself? Your schools must start very early!

Yes.

agzg · #11 01-12-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row

Do you really think there's been time in this semester to conduct rush, hand out bids, and leave notes on someone's door because he's had enough time to annoy all of you because he's making an ass of himself? Your schools must start very early!

IU sorority recruitment is already done. I find it totally plausible.