Former Penn State Coach Arrested

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by HQWest

So one the one hand, the graduate assistant that we now know to be Mike McQueary - didn't do or say enough because he was afraid that it might be damaging to his career or that they would blackball him, but JoePa doesn't have control over the office space in the athletics facilities? He couldn't have said "Hey I don't want this guy hanging around?" Or "Hey, we need the space to bring some one in to help tutor the guys on their physics homework"?

1. The GA dropped the ball, no doubt

2. Who says JoePa DIDN'T say that? And at the end of the day, it was up to Schultz and his office to ensure that Sandusky's access was removed. Paterno is just a coach. Influential, no doubt, but he is not the right hand of God, like many are trying to make him out to be.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

1. The GA dropped the ball, no doubt

2. Who says JoePa DIDN'T say that? And at the end of the day, it was up to Schultz and his office to ensure that Sandusky's access was removed. Paterno is just a coach. Influential, no doubt, but he is not the right hand of God, like many are trying to make him out to be.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with the bold part. Head coaches at major programs have the ability to hire and fire their staff members. Sandusky reported to Paterno. Paterno could have removed his access. You're kidding yourself to think otherwise.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with the bold part. Head coaches at major programs have the ability to hire and fire their staff members. Sandusky reported to Paterno. Paterno could have removed his access. You're kidding yourself to think otherwise.

Sandusky retired in 1999, so he did not report to Paterno.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Sandusky retired in 1999, so he did not report to Paterno.

Why is it that you think he retired in 1999? Just for fun?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Why is it that you think he retired in 1999? Just for fun?

What are you talking about?

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Why is it that you think he retired in 1999? Just for fun?

The "theory" or "rumor" is that he found out definitively that Paterno was not going to step down so he could take the reigns as head coach. Why he didn't take on an AC or HC position somewhere else (when he definitely could have) is anyone's guess.

Originally Posted by als463

I'll chalk this up to you being upset, just as many of us are and I won't take your harsh words to heart (as you shouldn't really take mine to heart, either). This whole situation sucks. I just ask that you and other people who are not associated with the school don't give dirty looks to or make nasty remarks about PSU students/ alumni who wear their gear with pride. I've already talked to some sisters and they have experienced nasty comments and dirty looks.

Being affiliated/not affiliated with PSU doesn't preclude understanding--to some extent--the sense of betrayal or disappointment that comes with something like this. Like I said before, I'm heavily involved with my college and I've been extremely disappointed with decisions they've made. It hasn't stopped me from donating and volunteering. I have plenty of friends who attended PSU and love it and I see the same love that I have for my own college.

I'm still not sure why you got so upset at my suggestion that Sandusky targeted certain kids within Second Mile. Yes, it's a charity that helps kids from broken homes--but some homes are more broken than others and some kids are more damaged than others. Why would it be unreasonable that he focused on specific kids? Some kids come from bad circumstances but they still have some support network. It's obvious that Sandusky preyed on the kids that didn't.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

The "theory" or "rumor" is that he found out definitively that Paterno was not going to step down so he could take the reigns as head coach. Why he didn't take on an AC or HC position somewhere else (when he definitely could have) is anyone's guess.

According to reports, there was a statewide push toward early retirement for state employees, with outrageously good benefits at that point - Sandusky qualified, and took the offer, likely due to what you noted (he was no longer "heir apparent"). If he took another job, he'd lose those benefits (presumably).

The 1998 issue likely had something to do with Sandusky's willingness to take the state's golden parachute, but until there's evidence the school had those 1998 accusations in-hand and fully understood the implications, it's hard to say that "something" was on anybody's side but Sandusky's himself.

With all of the accusations and theories abounding, it's worth keeping in mind that most of us don't know shit about shit, and no amount of outrage or vitriol changes that limited amount of knowledge. Holy balls.

[33girl]

I just had to rip a new asshole in some idiot who blamed this incident on the "frat boy culture."