"Early Bids" by One Dartmouth Local Sorority

[Low C Sharp]

Somehow not being part of Kappa Alpha Theta because they didn't want to have to hide their booze just doesn't rise to the same level.

No, it just greases the wheels for all chapters on that campus to view affiliation with nationals as something that's optional, fluid, and even reversible. This is something unique to Dartmouth that sits alongside the universal Ivy League perspective that they don't need the national credential for networking purposes, as the university and the chapter will provide all the inter/national connections they need. That's pretty widespread even on campuses where there's little to no history of locals (like Penn).

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

No, it just greases the wheels for all chapters on that campus to view affiliation with nationals as something that's optional, fluid, and even reversible. This is something unique to Dartmouth that sits alongside the universal Ivy League perspective that they don't need the national credential for networking purposes, as the university and the chapter will provide all the inter/national connections they need. That's pretty widespread even on campuses where there's little to no history of locals (like Penn).

I find that so interesting.

It is probably not uncommon for chapters across councils and conferences to not want to abide by every aspect of ritual, policies, and guidelines. If they get caught not abiding, it seems like most chapters prefer to abide than get shut down especially if becoming a local is not considered an option. When DST chapters have their charters revoked, it is a big deal and a local sorority that was once a DST chapter would not be given much respect.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I find that so interesting.

It is probably not uncommon for chapters across councils and conferences to not want to abide by every aspect of ritual, policies, and guidelines. If they get caught not abiding, it seems like most chapters prefer to abide than get shut down especially if becoming a local is not considered an option. When DST chapters have their charters revoked, it is a big deal and a local sorority that was once a DST chapter would not be given much respect.

I think the situations are very different for the NPHC fraternities and sororites especially on an HBCU chapter than they are with an NIC/NPC group.

Let's say that Sigma Alpha Epsilon (just to pick an NIC) gets its charter revoked at Eastern Michigan University and they can't come back for five years. There is *absolutely* no guarantee that Sigma Alpha Epsilon will come back at the end of that time, the school may not have any fraternity housing in five years because another NIC fraternity has come on campus and grabbed the house. SAE will have to wait for the school to decide to expand its greek life to come back and the school administration may just simply forget about them. An SAE legacy who comes to school two years after their charter is pulled is just out of luck.

OTOH, let's say DST is revoked at Norfolk State University for 5 years. The school and the sorority fully expect when it is revoked that in 5 years, DST will be back on campus with a line with full support of the local graduate chapter. And presuming a DST legacy comes to campus during the banning (presuming this doesn't cause her to switch schools), there is always waiting it out and going graduate. (and *all* of the NPHC brothers and sisters *know* this). There aren't going to be any locals derived from a DST chapter.

*Very* different.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by naraht

OTOH, let's say DST is revoked at Norfolk State University for 5 years. The school and the sorority fully expect when it is revoked that in 5 years, DST will be back on campus with a line with full support of the local graduate chapter.

Whether at a non-HBCU or an HBCU, this is not true. When a Delta chapter loses its charter (which is different than suspension, probation, not being allowed to have membership intake, or being dormant for whatever reasons), it is about much more than just "let's wait 5 years." If it is a matter of waiting and putting the chapter essentially on hold for a few years, the chapter will usually be put on probation or suspension. The chapter will generally not lose its charter. I was talking about locals being formed from chapters that have lost their charters and the members decide to depledge.

Originally Posted by naraht

And presuming a DST legacy comes to campus during the banning (presuming this doesn't cause her to switch schools), there is always waiting it out and going graduate. (and *all* of the NPHC brothers and sisters *know* this).

We have alumnae chapters, not graduate chapters so aspirants go alumnae. There are aspirants (legacies or not) who join other sororities when there is no Delta chapter or they do not like the chapter. Switching schools solely because there is no chapter or you were denied by the chapter is not as common as people assume. And the aspirants who decide to form a local sorority or join a non-NPHC/non-NPC sorority are not prohibited from pursuing Delta at the alumnae level.

I do not know what you mean by "and all of the NPHC brothers and sisters know this." You were talking about aspirants.

Originally Posted by naraht

There aren't going to be any locals derived from a DST chapter.

There theoretically could be if the chapter loses its charter and the members depledged (or were expelled by Delta) rather than graduating and remaining a Delta. It has yet to happen for a number of reasons and, like I said, they would not receive much respect. That does not make it impossible since times change. So, with that said, I am really intrigued by how some locals are formed and what that means for future students who may have wanted to join the national sorority or fraternity as a student.