The Golden Rule

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

BUT, it is reminscent of McCarthyism (better analogy?) when people become crazy stalkers and start "taking care" of things.

Please not this comparison again. Being dramatic in response to perceived drama never works. Find your own way to express your own opinion. Don't make yourself a spokesperson.

Originally Posted by shirley1929

I guess it's probably not fun for you when I can have a calm conversation and admit when I'm wrong. I don't need to resort to profanity.

Many people don't do that here. I'm sincerely not trying to bash...I'm trying to help. Sorry that it's not coming off that way.

Life lesson:
I consider your tone condescending and it makes you that which you despise. Announcing that you are calm and that you are trying to help can receive a negative response on GC and in real life depending on the topic and who you're talking to.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Life lesson:
I consider your tone condescending and it makes you that which you despise. Announcing that you are calm and that you are trying to help can receive a negative response on GC and in real life depending on the topic and who you're talking to.

And maybe that's what the very crux of my point is. Given that it's the written word, tone is VERY subjective. I didn't mean to be condescending, and yet I came off that way to you. You (the collective you of course) can come off that way as well, so we should all just be a little more careful in wording I guess.

Originally Posted by als463

I have to admit, I can't believe this thread has gone on for so long....wow.

Agree. I thought it would be one post and done, but apparently a struck a nerve somewhere?

Originally Posted by als463

shirley, I have something to add. You talked about how someone (I'm assuming from Texas or who has a chapter of their organization at Texas) was able to pick this young woman out in the crowd during recruitment. Here's my question: Doesn't that concern you on the part of the mother's lack of discretion, in the least? I have no clue who you are talking about or what really happened---you aren't telling us everything---but, if a PNM is that discernable from the rest of the crowd (UT has TONS of PNMs going through), then that's a problem.

I actually wasn't the one talking about this, I just mentioned that thread in general. I haven't said anything (to my memory) in that thread, I just referenced it. And yes, it does concern me (as I believe I mentioned in here) that the poster didn't listen, but do I think she then deserves what she got? NO.

Originally Posted by als463

Sure, there are crazy people who lurk, sock-puppet, troll, etc. The truth is that you never know who is on here. As Drolefille stated earlier, many of us have people from our Inter/National headquarters on here (though they may not post). I'm sorry to hear about that young woman's recruitment not working out for her but, maybe you should be pointing the finger at mom who gave away so much information that she was easy to spot. If anything, that is a potentially dangerous situation that you are giving up so much information about your child or loved one that strangers on a website can pick them out of a line-up.

So, you are saying she got what she deserved? I'm still really baffled at that.

Originally Posted by als463

So, stop yelling at those of us on GC that don't go looking to ruin someone's recruitment. Instead, start looking at the poor behavior of some of the parents who feel the need to disclose so many details about their child on an internet forum.

Seriously...where did I yell? Did I call you by name? If it doesn't apply to you, then don't respond to it. Simple. For the tenth time, I'm just asking people to think about how they can be construed before they post.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

And maybe that's what the very crux of my point is. Given that it's the written word, tone is VERY subjective. I didn't mean to be condescending, and yet I came off that way to you. You (the collective you of course) can come off that way as well, so we should all just be a little more careful in wording I guess.

But when that happens to us, we explain ourselves, say sorry and move on. We don't preach to everyone that they all need to be nicer. We're typing on a message board.. misunderstandings happen. Get over it.

I actually wasn't the one talking about this, I just mentioned that thread in general. I haven't said anything (to my memory) in that thread, I just referenced it. And yes, it does concern me (as I believe I mentioned in here) that the poster didn't listen, but do I think she then deserves what she got? NO.

So, you are saying she got what she deserved? I'm still really baffled at that.

Look, you screw up, you pay the consequences. The end.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

But when that happens to us, we explain ourselves, say sorry and move on. We don't preach to everyone that they all need to be nicer. We're typing on a message board.. misunderstandings happen. Get over it.

And sometimes you (the collective you, of course) aren't given the opportunity to apologize. The noob just slithers off because they're scared of your tone.

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Look, you screw up, you pay the consequences. The end.

Not gonna lie...that sounded hella creepy to me. So, some poor girl who did absolutely NOTHING wrong except having a mom who is overzealous and shares a little too much has to "pay the consequences"? And you're justifying it?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Not gonna lie...that sounded hella creepy to me. So, some poor girl who did absolutely NOTHING wrong except having a mom who is overzealous and shares a little too much has to "pay the consequences"? And you're justifying it?

Actions having consequences is "creepy" to you?

LOL @ what this thread has become

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Actions having consequences is "creepy" to you?

LOL @ what this thread has become

No, it was the tone with which she said it.

And that it was justified that the "consequences" were to the innocent daughter, not the mother. That's what creeps me out.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

And sometimes you (the collective you, of course) aren't given the opportunity to apologize. The noob just slithers off because they're scared of your tone.



Not gonna lie...that sounded hella creepy to me. So, some poor girl who did absolutely NOTHING wrong except having a mom who is overzealous and shares a little too much has to "pay the consequences"? And you're justifying it?

Originally Posted by shirley1929

No, it was the tone with which she said it.

And that it was justified that the "consequences" were to the innocent daughter, not the mother. That's what creeps me out.

Oh my.. It's true.. You really do live in Happy Pony Rainbow Land, huh?

Look, if I'm holding your hand and you decide to jump off a cliff, I pay for your stupid decision. I never said the daughter deserves to have all of her hopes and dreams crushed! I simply said that if you do something stupid, you can't be surprised when shit hits the fan. And you definitely can't blame us nice GCers, who only tried to help the mother out by telling her to shut up.

Does it suck that she ruined her daughter's shot at getting into a sorority? Yes. Should she be surprised at the outcome of her decision to not keep her mouth shut? No. Like I said a little ways back.. We tell the truth, and people don't want to hear it. Too bad.


ETA: p.s. how is that opinion "creepy"? It's not like I said I think it'd be a good idea to stare in your bedroom window all night..

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

LOL @ what this thread has become

LOL. Since when have usernames been able to create preachy threads with no responses? The OP should've replied in the Wary thread and been done with it. LOL.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

And maybe that's what the very crux of my point is. Given that it's the written word, tone is VERY subjective. I didn't mean to be condescending, and yet I came off that way to you. You (the collective you of course) can come off that way as well, so we should all just be a little more careful in wording I guess.

Was that your only point in creating this thread? LOL.

Originally Posted by shirley1929

And sometimes you (the collective you, of course) aren't given the opportunity to apologize. The noob just slithers off because they're scared of your tone.

Boohoo to the noob who slithers off? Good gracious. LOL.

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Not gonna lie...that sounded hella creepy to me. So, some poor girl who did absolutely NOTHING wrong except having a mom who is overzealous and shares a little too much has to "pay the consequences"? And you're justifying it?

Do you seriously think she is justifying what happened? I think you don't really know which battle you're fighting. There are a few battles here, some of which are exaggerated.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Boohoo to the noob who slithers off? Good gracious. LOL.

Maybe it's because they felt they were being cyber-bullied.

But seriously, the first time I posted on this site, I didn't make friends instantly. I said something jokingly, in a way I always talk when I'm with someone face-to-face, but it was taken the wrong way. I explained myself and moved on. And now, 3 years later (wow, has it been that long?), I'm still here. Because I built a bridge and got over it. I suggest you do the same.

P.s. I think, if I remember correctly, the person who came at me first was MysticCat. Sorry! Hopefully you don't hate me now, because if you do, I'm going to create a new thread about how mean you are and start one hell of a trainwreck!