Parts of a woman in a suitcase

[AGDee]

They had reported her missing to police on Monday night. Then her brother was going door to door with her driver's license to see if anybody had seen her. One of the people he talked to called him later to tell him there was a suitcase in the creek. The brother went and got the suitcase and opened it and then called police. I know PM_Mama thinks the brother did it but I'm not so sure. The police appear pretty confident that it was a stranger.

The brother was really calm in the video but I've seen my brother like that too. After my mom died, I was an emotional basketcase and my brother was Mr. Professional, handling everything and only breaking down in private. That's why I think the brother could have maintained his cool on camera. That's how some people roll.

While I can't speak for PM_Mama, I think everybody around here was hoping the body found initially was someone from Detroit who just happened to get dumped here or something. We don't WANT to believe that someone local has done this. That said, it's only a couple miles from I-75 and it's a secluded area so it could have been someone who stopped in the area and not someone who actually lives around here. We don't want to believe that someone who lives around here is capable of this. I know I don't.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AGDee

While I can't speak for PM_Mama, I think everybody around here was hoping the body found initially was someone from Detroit who just happened to get dumped here or something. We don't WANT to believe that someone local has done this. That said, it's only a couple miles from I-75 and it's a secluded area so it could have been someone who stopped in the area and not someone who actually lives around here. We don't want to believe that someone who lives around here is capable of this. I know I don't.

I get that. That makes a lot of sense, really as a coping skill, but it doesn't make it true, unforunately. And in the process of trying to remove the killer from the general population PM_Mama really did imply at least some level of blame, if only a bare minimum of "she brought him into the community."

[TonyB06]

Originally Posted by AGDee

They had reported her missing to police on Monday night. .... That's why I think the brother could have maintained his cool on camera. That's how some people roll.

While I can't speak for PM_Mama, I think everybody around here was hoping the body found initially was someone from Detroit who just happened to get dumped here or something. We don't WANT to believe that someone local has done this. That said, it's only a couple miles from I-75 and it's a secluded area so it could have been someone who stopped in the area and not someone who actually lives around here. We don't want to believe that someone who lives around here is capable of this. I know I don't.

While I generally always enjoy your posts and your reasoning behind them, I found the bolded sentence odd. I don't think you meant to imply that the murder/death would have been any less tragic had it was someone from Detroit, did you?

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

While I generally always enjoy your posts and your reasoning behind them, I found the bolded sentence odd. I don't think you meant to imply that the murder/death would have been any less tragic had it was someone from Detroit, did you?

It would affect the fear factor in a different way. This is a town with a population of 5000 and the woman was found in a creek immediately behind her condo. That makes for a very fearful community. It wouldn't have been less tragic, but it wouldn't have instilled the kind of fear that this has. We wouldn't have been as worried about our teenager daughters going to school 1/4 mile down the street. We wouldn't be as afraid for ourselves.

It is tragic either way, but when you know there was a murderer who could do this in your own backyard, it's more unsettling. I think we all tend to have a sense of security in our neighborhood, even if it's not well founded in statistics. In this instance though, it IS founded in statistics. This is the fourth homicide in this city in the history of the city, which was founded in 1837.

So, we expect murders in Detroit. We don't expect them in Gibraltar. It doesn't make the murder any less tragic. It does affect how afraid we are.

ETA: PM_Mama: She is from Wayne originally.

Whoever did this really didn't want her to be able to be identified. Reports are now saying that not only were her head and hands missing to make identifying her more difficult but her tattoos were removed also. Given all of that, I am more convinced that it was not the brother because he is the one who told the police that it was her. If he didn't want her identified, he could have taken that suitcase and tossed it into the Detroit River with some cement and it would never have been found.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

While I generally always enjoy your posts and your reasoning behind them, I found the bolded sentence odd. I don't think you meant to imply that the murder/death would have been any less tragic had it was someone from Detroit, did you?

One of my sands is a Detroit Police officer (SWAT) and he told me on average there's about 8 murders in Detroit/day...to the point most of it doesn't even make the news. He sees these types of (dismembered body) murders often. Outside of Detroit, it's not very common.

ETA: With the exception of Flint, which in some areas is worse than Detroit.

[PM_Mama00]

Dee where are you getting your info? I can't find anything updated. It's very frustrating! I didn't hear anything about the tattoos. HOW SICK can someone be to do all this?!