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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
You should know better, look who the source is.... I say yes, she says no, I say up, she says down...
Get over it.
I disagree because if that was the case we wouldn't have sects or denominations.
Get over it.
I guess it's a different experience for everyone. I don't know what town you're from but I've never seen/experienced school prayers, town Christmas celebrations, etc in Michigan.
Once again, different experience for everyone. I've never lived in a place where one couldn't buy alcohol on Sundays.
DISCLAIMER (CUZ APPARENTLY ITS NECESSARY)- You can buy alcohol on Sunday's in the places I've lived but not till after noon.
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Read the news, these things exist.
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I didn't misread you, It's just that you didn't get the relevancy of what I posted. I don't blame you nor do I judge you because reading your post it's clear to me that you do not understand the role/influence/power/control (or lack of) of the military chaplain. It's totally understandable though, since you have never been in the military and probably have never met a real life chaplain 
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So, you replied to tell me how wrong I am and how I don't get it, without bothering to actually try to clarify? Keep the smug and actually address the point or don't bother typing.
My understanding of military chaplains is that they provide worship services, and individual counseling to military members. I know, based on reports from gay and lesbian service members, that chaplains have preached, and continue to preach, against homosexuality within the units to which they're assigned. Please tell me where I'm wrong here. Particularly since some chaplains are freaking the fuck out about the DADT repeal.
I have no problem saying that the chaplains should be required to have their speech in the role of chaplain, restricted or GTFO. That's part of being in the military and working on the behalf of the government.
I only threw in the idea of a pacifist chaplain as a hypothetical. Regarding the 'black humanist chaplains' mentioned.. um.. 'cool' I guess? There's nothing wrong with that either, as long as they're not telling people that being religious is wrong. Although I question some of the validity of this since at least the Army's chaplain rules require being a clergy member, something most humanists don't have, except perhaps the UU I suppose. So, whatever.
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