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05-24-2011, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel
The video mentioned they tried to cut the electricity (wtf) and there was a lot of damage,
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This is scary stuff. You don't mess around with electricity. You could kill someone and/or burn down the house quite easily. Plus someone will have to pay to repair the damage. There is no "prank" reason to try to cut the electricity.
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05-24-2011, 03:53 PM
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Considering school was out, the women aren't living in the house and the house mom is there alone, harmless prank isn't good enough for me. The house mom would be the one to make the discovery and the women aren't going to be back for three months, so it isn't like the sorority of women are being pranked by fraternity men, it is the house mom being pranked by two guys who happen to be in a fraternity.
The video mentioned they tried to cut the electricity (wtf) and there was a lot of damage, enough for them to be booked for felony residential burglary and conspiracy according to the video. The public documents list it as a 3rd degree felony for felony attempt & conspiracy, so no misdemeanors like paying a fine or a written apology will likely cut it. If they haven't previously been naughty they probably won't get what I read of basic sentencing of 3 years for a 3rd or 18 months for a 4th degree felony and the possibility of a $5,000 fine, in addition to other costs. At least they aren't hamming it up in their mugshots.
Uh, is this the guy who thinks a written apology is acceptable?
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Kiki, Kiki, Kiki...what were you thinking? SMH. LOL. What kind of name is Kiki?
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05-24-2011, 04:32 PM
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Kiki, Kiki, Kiki...what were you thinking? SMH. LOL. What kind of name is Kiki?
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I wouldnt peg it as a guy's name. I hear that name and think of the woman who was known as "Kiki" from my hometown who was rumored to be a skank among other names.
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05-24-2011, 05:21 PM
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Reading through all of this I just will say the Justice System is flawed.
I would side with community service though, and some severe fines for the property damage, I wouldn't throw the book at them. The point is everythng should be case by case and we shouldn't paint every issue and every scenario with a broad brush stroke.
College kids are still kids and they are stupid. The fine alone will ride with them and their credit, but don't destroy their ability to make a life in this world by giving them a felony conviction. That just adds to our already uncontrollable justice system.
It's like the five year old charged with sexual harrassment and they were talking about having him register as a sex offender.
Let the punishment fit the crime once we get the complete information.
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05-24-2011, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BluPhire
Reading through all of this I just will say the Justice System is flawed.
I would side with community service though, and some severe fines for the property damage, I wouldn't throw the book at them. The point is everythng should be case by case and we shouldn't paint every issue and every scenario with a broad brush stroke.
College kids are still kids and they are stupid. The fine alone will ride with them and their credit, but don't destroy their ability to make a life in this world by giving them a felony conviction. That just adds to our already uncontrollable justice system.
It's like the five year old charged with sexual harrassment and they were talking about having him register as a sex offender.
Let the punishment fit the crime once we get the complete information.
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This is the most likely result, however I have a hard time caring about their futures when 'kids' who don't have the same opportunities face five years in prison for the same offenses.
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05-24-2011, 05:59 PM
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This is the most likely result, however I have a hard time caring about their futures when 'kids' who don't have the same opportunities face five years in prison for the same offenses.
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I figured somebody would make this statement because I thought of it myself.
The issue though is just because justice isn't fair for everyone, does not mean that injustice should be allowed to balance it out. Not saying that if the book is thrown at them it is injustice, just saying for my overall regardless of greek/non-greek, student/nonstudent.
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05-24-2011, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BluPhire
I figured somebody would make this statement because I thought of it myself.
The issue though is just because justice isn't fair for everyone, does not mean that injustice should be allowed to balance it out. Not saying that if the book is thrown at them it is injustice, just saying for my overall regardless of greek/non-greek, student/nonstudent.
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Total tangent, but this is how I felt when Governor Ryan wanted to visit his wife on her deathbed.
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05-24-2011, 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BluPhire
I figured somebody would make this statement because I thought of it myself.
The issue though is just because justice isn't fair for everyone, does not mean that injustice should be allowed to balance it out. Not saying that if the book is thrown at them it is injustice, just saying for my overall regardless of greek/non-greek, student/nonstudent.
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I do agree in general, and probation including community service and fines with the possibility of a conditional discharge of the offense upon successful completion is probably a good idea here. However, being upset that the police were involved is a whole other matter.
And if people had been hurt, my reservations about actual sentenced time go away.
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