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Old 04-08-2011, 07:04 PM
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haha my WRIT 140 teacher is fine with it, actually! I had to turn in the prompt with the paper, but it was about finding something that mirrors & magnifies social divisions if I recall correctly. I read her the first four pages or so, which were full of ACB citations and she had no problem with them. I wasn't presenting anything from ACB as objective fact, merely as anonymous opinions.
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:01 PM
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First off, I don't think it's cool that people are jumping on SC2013 for not joining the chapter that offered her a bid.
That's NOT what people are jumping on her for. People are jumping on her for this

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most chapters do not really fit closely to their national mottos and creeds to better themselves academically, philanthropically, but only socially.
and this

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philanthropies wouldn't just be about getting drunk in the middle of the day on campus. I mean girls attracted to this kind of sorority wouldn't feel like they're doing the community a favor by waking up at 9am on Saturday for a beach cleanup. I mean if your motto is "Let us strive for that which is honorable, beautiful and highest," you follow it and don't just paint it somewhere in your house to pass by while you get ready to prance down the Row in a micromini.
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Sororities are about getting the hottest members to "best represent" themselves, and sending their most attractive members to the "best" frats, and spending the most time and effort on only a few "top" fraternity philanthropies. And then requiring a couple hours community
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That's not what the GC community is about. That's not what being an alumni, being a member for life, is about. I feel like our school's Greek system in general has deviated too far from what each national organization stands for, and I'd like to return to those roots. Am I SOL?
It would be one thing if she was a freshman, but she's not. She rushed as a sophomore after seeing a year of this heinous, values-lacking behavior. She knew what she was getting into and was completely ok with the thought of prancing in a micromini - or she wouldn't have gone through rush. If people said anything about her not accepting her AXO bid, it was because they thought that she ignored a chance to try to change the system from the inside out - to try and attract like-minded individuals and create the kind of sorority she allegedly wants.
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:38 PM
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That's NOT what people are jumping on her for.
really? because this is what I saw:
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OP, you had your chance. Get over it. Move along and stop trying to put down the Greek Life on your campus. In fact, please go away.
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You were offered a bid to the struggling chapter and chose not to accept it. You are actually part of the problem.
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The OP seems like a nice enough girl who could do well in a smaller chapter like Peggy Olson and really help turn things around. Wasted potential.
From what I understand, Panhellenic did not do a good job informing girls about what it means to sign a bid card, and many girls (not just SC2013) walked away misinformed and disappointed. This hurts all the chapters that do COB. I'm not saying she should have not signed a bid card, but I know girls we can't recruit because Panhellenic told them, oh, just sign your bid card and see if you like it on bid night, girls who would have liked to go through informal recruitment with us.

I understand that people are jumping on her for what you pointed out as well, but as someone who's been jumped on for not clicking with that chapter, I know that it sucks being attacked by a lot of anonymous strangers for something you can't control. I wanted to fall in love with that house, and I'm sure she did too, but sometimes it just doesn't work out like that. There have been girls who I have wanted to fall in love with our house who end up joining their house, and I understand that that happens and it's not anyone's fault.

As a whole, this forum can be intimidating to me, I'm not going to lie. I don't know if SC2013 feels the same way, but this place is kind of overwhelming at times, especially when a bunch of people I don't know are convinced that I'm wrong even when I think I'm doing the right thing for me.

Sorry if you hate my post as well, I'm in a weird state of mind right now and am not presenting my thoughts as well as I could.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:16 PM
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No, I don't hate your post, just trying to make you understand where people are coming from.

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I'm not saying she should have not signed a bid card, but I know girls we can't recruit because Panhellenic told them, oh, just sign your bid card and see if you like it on bid night, girls who would have liked to go through informal recruitment with us.
Again, she's a sophomore. She seems like a very bright one as well, and I don't think she was unaware that if she signed her bid card, she was bound for a year. The thing is though...once you've signed a bid card and are bound for a year, you might as well go to bid day. At least you'll get some free food out of it...at most you may be able to make connections outside the clusterfluff of rush and realize it wasn't as bad/awkward as you thought.

From her other thread, it seems like she tried to do what she thought would help her mathematically (for lack of a better way to put it) and it backfired.

As far as the posts you've quoted..."I went through rush and none of the sororities are living up to their values so I want to start my own" is a well-worn euphemism for "I didn't get a bid/got the wrong bid so I'll show them" around here. People have seen it a lot of times and are pretty cynical when someone says something along those lines. If she would have come on here and asked what the chances were of starting a new sorority at USC, that would have been fine. Her mistake was criticizing a system that not too long ago, she wanted very dearly to be a part of.
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