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02-23-2011, 12:19 PM
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Oh my dear Lord...
This isn't t-ball where everyone gets a trophy. Greek life isn't perfectly equal everywhere you go. Like everything else in the world, it's better in some places than others. That doesn't mean if you aren't at the very top of that ranking that you or your chapter or your college or whatever we're talking about is terrible, it just is what it is. Most people accept that and make the very best they can of it.
I didn't go to a tier 1 university for my undergrad, and greek life there reflects that. Both the University and greek system there have grown and improved exponentially since I was there, but neither will ever be in the same universe as something that might be considered a pinnacle university/greek system/etc.
That doesn't mean that I, my chapter, my greek system, or my university are or were worthless. It just means we accept where we are on the totem pole & try to make it better.
I'm very familiar with the A&M greek system. VERY clearly my comments were directed at it. It is a VERY unusual place. If you can imagine sororities from a tier 1 university/greek system, the corps filling the role of fraternities from a tier 1 university, and the IFC fraternities being like the ultimate frisbee club... that's about what it's like. A lot of sororities there, both as orgs and individuals, do not associate at all with fraternities or anyone in them. There are notable exceptions, but on average that's how it is there.
Hence, when I tell this girl she might consider putting herself in some social situations where she can network with sorority girls and with guys that have pull with sorority girls, at A&M, most fraternity parties don't fit that bill.
Can we please quit dissecting every word of every sentence trying to find fault where none is intended or exists.
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02-23-2011, 12:47 PM
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Oh my dear Lord...
Can we please quit dissecting every word of every sentence trying to find fault where none is intended or exists.
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But this is what makes GC GC. How else do you think most threads easily reach 20 pages.
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02-24-2011, 01:19 PM
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But this is what makes GC GC. How else do you think most threads easily reach 20 pages.

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That's pretty sad.
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02-24-2011, 02:24 PM
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That's pretty sad.
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Not really, no.
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02-24-2011, 06:39 PM
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That's pretty sad.
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No sadder than someone trying to present himself as the authority on Greek life at a school which he doesn't attend.
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02-24-2011, 11:57 PM
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No sadder than someone trying to present himself as the authority on Greek life at a school which he doesn't attend.
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ditto to this!
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02-25-2011, 09:59 AM
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Actually I have a masters degree from there and was advisor for a chapter there for several years.
I'm not claiming to be any great authority on the place. But, what am I wrong about?
Does the Corps not still pretty much run that school just like the last hundred years? Do sororities not do lots of events with them or other groups, versus fraternities?
Are there 20 fraternities there over 100 members with giant legitimate houses where most sorority girls spend 3-4 days of every week at parties? Or is social life focused elsewhere, maybe 1-2 fraternities are over 100, 20 others mostly under 70, most are tiny. The total number of people in fraternities is lower than TxState; barely bigger than SFA, Sam, UNT, UTA, etc; less than half the size of Tech; and, dwarfed by Texas... while Sororities have about 250% more members than the guys, large chapters, solid houses, and a whole lot don't think fraternity guys are exactly the best people on campus.
I mean hey, maybe I'm out of touch and completely wrong. Just providing an observation. I would expect people that know the campus to provide their observations as well and maybe the girl can figure out what's going on.
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02-25-2011, 10:28 AM
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BTW, not all podunk chapters have 12 members. My chapter had up to 120 members when I was in school. I know tier 1 chapters that aren't as big. I love GC train wrecks!
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02-25-2011, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dnall
Actually I have a masters degree from there and was advisor for a chapter there for several years.
I'm not claiming to be any great authority on the place. But, what am I wrong about?
Does the Corps not still pretty much run that school just like the last hundred years? Do sororities not do lots of events with them or other groups, versus fraternities?
Are there 20 fraternities there over 100 members with giant legitimate houses where most sorority girls spend 3-4 days of every week at parties? Or is social life focused elsewhere, maybe 1-2 fraternities are over 100, 20 others mostly under 70, most are tiny. The total number of people in fraternities is lower than TxState; barely bigger than SFA, Sam, UNT, UTA, etc; less than half the size of Tech; and, dwarfed by Texas... while Sororities have about 250% more members than the guys, large chapters, solid houses, and a whole lot don't think fraternity guys are exactly the best people on campus.
I mean hey, maybe I'm out of touch and completely wrong. Just providing an observation. I would expect people that know the campus to provide their observations as well and maybe the girl can figure out what's going on.
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The very fact that you refer to THE University of Texas as "UTA" shows your lack of understanding. I really hate being put into the position of defending Aggies, but the situation there is far less grim than you describe.
Please confine your sorority recruitment advice to your own lane at your podunk school in Oklahoma.
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02-25-2011, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dnall
Are there 20 fraternities there over 100 members with giant legitimate houses where most sorority girls spend 3-4 days of every week at parties? Or is social life focused elsewhere, maybe 1-2 fraternities are over 100, 20 others mostly under 70, most are tiny. The total number of people in fraternities is lower than TxState; barely bigger than SFA, Sam, UNT, UTA, etc; less than half the size of Tech; and, dwarfed by Texas... while Sororities have about 250% more members than the guys, large chapters, solid houses, and a whole lot don't think fraternity guys are exactly the best people on campus.
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You were saying?
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02-23-2011, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dnall
Oh my dear Lord...
This isn't t-ball where everyone gets a trophy. Greek life isn't perfectly equal everywhere you go. Like everything else in the world, it's better in some places than others. That doesn't mean if you aren't at the very top of that ranking that you or your chapter or your college or whatever we're talking about is terrible, it just is what it is. Most people accept that and make the very best they can of it.
I didn't go to a tier 1 university for my undergrad, and greek life there reflects that. Both the University and greek system there have grown and improved exponentially since I was there, but neither will ever be in the same universe as something that might be considered a pinnacle university/greek system/etc.
That doesn't mean that I, my chapter, my greek system, or my university are or were worthless. It just means we accept where we are on the totem pole & try to make it better.
I'm very familiar with the A&M greek system. VERY clearly my comments were directed at it. It is a VERY unusual place. If you can imagine sororities from a tier 1 university/greek system, the corps filling the role of fraternities from a tier 1 university, and the IFC fraternities being like the ultimate frisbee club... that's about what it's like. A lot of sororities there, both as orgs and individuals, do not associate at all with fraternities or anyone in them. There are notable exceptions, but on average that's how it is there.
Hence, when I tell this girl she might consider putting herself in some social situations where she can network with sorority girls and with guys that have pull with sorority girls, at A&M, most fraternity parties don't fit that bill.
Can we please quit dissecting every word of every sentence trying to find fault where none is intended or exists.
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What the hell is this post about?
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02-23-2011, 01:59 PM
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^^^^^
I think it's about how some people took offense to the term "podunk state college" and how some of us (me included) went on this tirade about what podunk means.
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