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Old 01-31-2011, 12:49 PM
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Oh, then by all means let's bring all of these unwanted children to term. I am sure they will have a great life with their drug addicted parents. Heck, they will probably be an addict themselves yeah!
They can be put up for adoption.

But I guess death is better than any hardships that may or may not occur.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:53 PM
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They can be put up for adoption.

But I guess death is better than any hardships that may or may not occur.
A college or high school girl with health care and a stable roof over her head can afford prenatal care and eventually give her baby up for adoption. Not everyone has it that easy.

The self righteous attitude is tired and only turns people off to anything you say. If you truly believe abortion is wrong, why not do something productive about it instead of using sarcasm and holier than thou posts?
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:06 PM
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A college or high school girl with health care and a stable roof over her head can afford prenatal care and eventually give her baby up for adoption. Not everyone has it that easy.

The self righteous attitude is tired and only turns people off to anything you say. If you truly believe abortion is wrong, why not do something productive about it instead of using sarcasm and holier than thou posts?
Your conscience bothering you?

As I have told others and will tell you, I will post what I want when I want. Just because you disagree with me and think infanticide, in the name of choice, is acceptable will not deter me from disagreeing.

You have no idea what I do, what I give and to whom I give my time, talents and money to, so get off your high horse.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:39 PM
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Your conscience bothering you?
Are you implying that she has had an abortion and now feels guilty about it?

Need I remind you that the contents of a woman's reproductive organs are none of your business?
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:16 PM
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Your conscience bothering you?

As I have told others and will tell you, I will post what I want when I want. Just because you disagree with me and think infanticide, in the name of choice, is acceptable will not deter me from disagreeing.

You have no idea what I do, what I give and to whom I give my time, talents and money to, so get off your high horse.
Predictable troll is predictable.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:22 PM
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SAVE THE BABIES, THEY NEED OUR HELP!

FUCK THE POOR! THEY DON'T DESERVE OUR HELP!
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:22 PM
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Your conscience bothering you?

As I have told others and will tell you, I will post what I want when I want. Just because you disagree with me and think infanticide, in the name of choice, is acceptable will not deter me from disagreeing.

You have no idea what I do, what I give and to whom I give my time, talents and money to, so get off your high horse.
Nope. Fortunately I've never had an unplanned pregnancy and had to make the choice. I don't envy anyone who does and can't say what I would do since Ive never been in that situation. I do believe in a woman's right to choose in regards to her body.You're right, I don't know what you do but what I do know is that you aren't doing your "side" any favors by being rude, downright hostile and aggressive instead of making clear and informed arguments that explain why you feel the way you do. And again, if you wish others to respect your viewpoint you must be respectful of theirs. You do not have to agree to respect others, by the way. Otherwise you are foolish to expect anyone to refrain from giving you what you give them.

In other words, your attitude is bad. Either adjust it and be civil or have the balls to take your same bad attitude thrown in your face.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:34 PM
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I just read a dystopian story that took this to the extreme. Abortion was illegal, sex was only permitted if the woman was ovulating and the man's sperm count was high and if you didn't match with your spouse you went to a communal center - the church i believe - and made babies with the other people there. Infants who were born infertile would be given a terminal baptism, they were blessed and then drowned by a priest. Because the infants, thus baptized, would go to heaven, but the unborn that they would never be able to bear wouldn't, so they 'made room' so to speak.

There were no social services or anything, just families in tiny spaces with 9 children or so. The priest ends up killing himself via his own sort of terminal baptism.
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Old 01-31-2011, 05:53 PM
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Predictable troll is predictable.
You know, when someone disagrees with your liberal positions you go into megaattack mode. You get a pissed when someone stands up to you and others with your beliefs. It is quite common for you to disparage those who don't agree with you. I simply chose to dish it out and not allow you, or those with similar beliefs as you, to run roughshod over me or others I agree with. So in that I am no more a troll then you.

I am pro-life and proud of it. You and your ilk are pro-choice so wear it well. I have said it before and will reiterate it as much as possible, it is a child, not a fetus. You can parse it anyway you want but it is taking a truly innocent life. The unborn child has not even had a chance to lose its innocence. If you don't see that then I pity your humanity. I weep for the innocent unborn who you deem unworthy to live.

I am appalled that on one hand you state that this was a heinous act by the "doctor" but that you also believe that the unborn child is a fetus (and, I assume, therefore has no rights in the pro-choice world) until it exits the birth canal. If that is truly what you believe then what did the "doctor" do wrong other than accidentally kill the 1 adult? If the adults had attended a "legal" abotion clinic and the children had been killed by scissors being shoved into their skulls and their spinal cord severed would you find that troubling? Inquiring minds would like to know.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:20 PM
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You know, when someone disagrees with your liberal positions you go into megaattack mode. You get a pissed when someone stands up to you and others with your beliefs. It is quite common for you to disparage those who don't agree with you. I simply chose to dish it out and not allow you, or those with similar beliefs as you, to run roughshod over me or others I agree with. So in that I am no more a troll then you.

I am pro-life and proud of it. You and your ilk are pro-choice so wear it well. I have said it before and will reiterate it as much as possible, it is a child, not a fetus. You can parse it anyway you want but it is taking a truly innocent life. The unborn child has not even had a chance to lose its innocence. If you don't see that then I pity your humanity. I weep for the innocent unborn who you deem unworthy to live.

I am appalled that on one hand you state that this was a heinous act by the "doctor" but that you also believe that the unborn child is a fetus (and, I assume, therefore has no rights in the pro-choice world) until it exits the birth canal. If that is truly what you believe then what did the "doctor" do wrong other than accidentally kill the 1 adult? If the adults had attended a "legal" abotion clinic and the children had been killed by scissors being shoved into their skulls and their spinal cord severed would you find that troubling? Inquiring minds would like to know.
If you presented anything other than emotional appeals and personal attacks I'd care more. That's trolling. Should you bother to read any of the rest of the thread, as agzg pointed out you haven't, you'd find the answers to your questions. But keep it up, someone might believe you're real yet.

/seriously you're frodo aren't you.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:41 PM
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You know, when someone disagrees with your liberal positions you go into megaattack mode. You get a pissed when someone stands up to you and others with your beliefs. It is quite common for you to disparage those who don't agree with you. I simply chose to dish it out and not allow you, or those with similar beliefs as you, to run roughshod over me or others I agree with. So in that I am no more a troll then you.

I am pro-life and proud of it. You and your ilk are pro-choice so wear it well. I have said it before and will reiterate it as much as possible, it is a child, not a fetus. You can parse it anyway you want but it is taking a truly innocent life. The unborn child has not even had a chance to lose its innocence. If you don't see that then I pity your humanity. I weep for the innocent unborn who you deem unworthy to live.

I am appalled that on one hand you state that this was a heinous act by the "doctor" but that you also believe that the unborn child is a fetus (and, I assume, therefore has no rights in the pro-choice world) until it exits the birth canal. If that is truly what you believe then what did the "doctor" do wrong other than accidentally kill the 1 adult? If the adults had attended a "legal" abotion clinic and the children had been killed by scissors being shoved into their skulls and their spinal cord severed would you find that troubling? Inquiring minds would like to know.
It is unfortunate you are such a very unpleasant person. You obviously feel strongly about the issue. I know many people that feel the same as you, but they are people with grace and civility that are able to explain clearly why they believe the way they do without attacking others. It's very possible to believe strongly one way or another and still be respectful. I pity you, personally, because it must be hard to go through life with such an abrasive personality.

You see, had you commented without "your ilk" or "I pity your humanity" and the like, you wouldn't have encountered unpleasant responses. Once again, if you are rude and hostile, you have no right to expect civil responses. The responses you are getting are your own attitude thrown right back at you. Have the decency to recognize that and accept it instead of playing the victim. You aren't one, in any way shape or form. And once again, you have no right to expect anyone here to respect your opinions if you will not return the favor. Since you have made it clear you respect no opinions but your own, stop expecting you'll get a pass on your hostility.

Lastly, the questions you asked have actually been answered, and you have chosen not to read them. Instead of reading and discussing intelligently you have once again stooped to incorrect assumptions. If you are incapable of reading, don't bother asking questions.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:52 AM
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They can be put up for adoption.
And how many children have you adopted? Would you adopt a child of a different race? Would you adopt a child with special needs?
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Old 02-01-2011, 06:28 PM
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I am pro-life and proud of it. You and your ilk are pro-choice so wear it well.

For me pro-choice is just that - pro-CHOICE.

If a woman chooses to have an abortion, fine. That is her choice that she will have to live with.

If a woman decides to keep the child and raise it or put it up for aboption, that is her choice as well.

I personally don't "prosecute" her either way.

It would be great if all babies are born to wonderful married parents, but they are not.

More often that not, unwed expectant mothers receive little to no support, especially from the guy who got her pregnant.


So, instead of attacking women, why don't you take it upon yourself to help educate men so that they will be aware of their responsibility also.
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/seriously you're frodo aren't you.
No. No other id's.

I am/was an adopted child. Guess once adopted always adopted.
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No. No other id's.

I am/was an adopted child. Guess once adopted always adopted.
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