Wikileaks to release more info

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

The "or" comes between "levying War against them" and "adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." So merely giving enemies aid and comfort is not enough to satisfy the definition. The aid and comfort is linked to adhering to the enemy. So the bottom line is that for treason, one either has to actually fight for the enemy or at the least give some allegiance to the enemy, with aid and comfort in furtherance of that allegiance.

To further this, the noun use of "comfort" is an archaic one, meaning literally "assistance or strengthening aid" and not the modern senses of the term.

So ... yeah, as I'm no Constitutional scholar (but I appear to know a good one ), I'll agree with MC's assertion that "tough road to hoe" would be the minimum here.

There are better ways to get a conviction, and I assume that's all anyone really wants.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

To further this, the noun use of "comfort" is an archaic one, meaning literally "assistance or strengthening aid" and not the modern senses of the term.

Exactly. Thanks for adding this.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by agzg

Yeah, we'll certainly see what's going on with those rape charges soon enough, I think.

Although the victim blaming has taken a different route this time: Instead of "she deserved it" it's "she trapped him because she's a radical feminist!"

Yes, ugh I hate that. I don't doubt her story, but I don't really know her story either. Reports have varied wildly from this being a clear case of her withdrawing consent for sex after finding out he wasn't using a condom and him continuing which is clear rape, to allegations that the Swedish law is any sex without a condom is rape which is afaik false, to reports that one or both women really just wanted him to be forced to consent to STD testing and not to bring rape charges.

In addition the way the prosecutors have handled the case, not interviewing him when they could, charging, dropping, recharging (or threatening to charge, dropping it and picking it up) and so on has made me rather cynical about the whole thing.

Originally Posted by KSig RC

To further this, the noun use of "comfort" is an archaic one, meaning literally "assistance or strengthening aid" and not the modern senses of the term.

I still prefer to imagine people sending Soviet spies chicken noodle soup and tucking them into bed...

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Yes, ugh I hate that. I don't doubt her story, but I don't really know her story either. Reports have varied wildly from this being a clear case of her withdrawing consent for sex after finding out he wasn't using a condom and him continuing which is clear rape, to allegations that the Swedish law is any sex without a condom is rape which is afaik false, to reports that one or both women really just wanted him to be forced to consent to STD testing and not to bring rape charges.

In addition the way the prosecutors have handled the case, not interviewing him when they could, charging, dropping, recharging (or threatening to charge, dropping it and picking it up) and so on has made me rather cynical about the whole thing.

The media's all over the map on this one. I suppose we'll see what happens when the Swedes get a hold of him physically (I believe he's still in London, right)?

Or they could send Lisbeth Salander to tattoo his belly.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by agzg

The media's all over the map on this one. I suppose we'll see what happens when the Swedes get a hold of him physically (I believe he's still in London, right)?

Or they could send Lisbeth Salander to tattoo his belly.

I believe so, or was at last notice. He lost his hearing to get bail and stay in London while he appeals the extradition I think. Because of the type of warrant there isn't a lot of review upfront due to EU agreements.

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by agzg

The media's all over the map on this one. I suppose we'll see what happens when the Swedes get a hold of him physically (I believe he's still in London, right)?

Or they could send Lisbeth Salander to tattoo his belly.

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