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starang21 08-25-2010 09:20 AM

Wikileaks to release more info
 
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/25/wik...ex.html?hpt=T2

WikiLeaks, the whistleblower website that infuriated the Pentagon when it published thousands of classified military reports, said it will release a fresh set of documents Wednesday.

The group posted on its Twitter page Tuesday: "WikiLeaks to release CIA paper tomorrow." It did not specify a time.

The website set off a firestorm recently when it posted some 76,000 U.S. documents related to the war in Afghanistan. The group has said it has another 15,000 documents, which it plans to release soon.

It was not immediately clear whether the Twitter post on Tuesday is related to the batch of documents that WikiLeaks has called the "Afghan War Diary."

>snip<

Kevin 08-25-2010 04:21 PM

God bless 'em.

One can only hope that this sort of thing makes military commanders think twice about some of the things they do in the name of this country; not to mention some of the bull**** things we send our young men and women into harm's way for.

PiKA2001 08-25-2010 04:27 PM

How did he get all of these documents to begin with? The article never explains that.

Kevin 08-25-2010 06:26 PM

Leaked by a soldier.

PiKA2001 08-25-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1975119)
Leaked by a soldier.

Were the documents "Leaked" or stolen? Whatever, I'll read up on it up later.

Am I the only person who thinks these documents are only being published to further anti-American sentiments regarding the war?

preciousjeni 08-25-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1975134)
Were the documents "Leaked" or stolen? Whatever, I'll read up on it up later.

Am I the only person who thinks these documents are only being published to further anti-American sentiments regarding the war?

I'm positive you are not alone in your psychotic paranoia. :p

Drolefille 08-25-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1975134)

Am I the only person who thinks these documents are only being published to further anti-American sentiments regarding the war?

You're not familiar with wikileaks at all, are you?

PiKA2001 08-25-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1975224)
You're not familiar with wikileaks at all, are you?

I'm not, and I don't think anyone will be answering to anything that they leak. OMG the government is doing shady things in wartime? Say it ain't so! ;)

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic but I don't see anything good coming from this other than encouraging more insurgency against the troops there. No soldier or officer is going to be held accountable for any "exposed" atrocity and we will just end up in Afghanistan even longer now.

Drolefille 08-25-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1975245)
I'm not, and I don't think anyone will be answering to anything that they leak. OMG the government is doing shady things in wartime? Say it ain't so! ;)

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic but I don't see anything good coming from this other than encouraging more insurgency against the troops there. No soldier or officer is going to be held accountable for any "exposed" atrocity and we will just end up in Afghanistan even longer now.

Wikileaks exposes information for the sake of exposing it. It's not really about expected results (like punishment for atrocities or changing sentiment). They post pretty much everything they get their hands on. The guy who is responsible for the leaks is in the military judicial ... process... right now.

PiKA2001 08-25-2010 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1975162)
I'm positive you are not alone in your psychotic paranoia. :p

Ha! I've never been referred to as being psychotic or paranoid in my life. Good thing you are here to diagnose me.

BTW, Would the guy who leaked the Afghan War Diaries be considered paranoid with this statement he made?

"Everywhere there’s a U.S. post, there’s a diplomatic scandal that will be revealed."

PiKA2001 08-26-2010 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1975262)
The guy who is responsible for the leaks is in the military judicial ... process... right now.

He's fucked but I can't say I feel bad for him. He was in the intel community, he knew the consequences better than anybody else. I just hope he feels it was worth it.

starang21 08-26-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1975277)
He's fucked but I can't say I feel bad for him. He was in the intel community, he knew the consequences better than anybody else. I just hope he feels it was worth it.

if i recall, he was a hacker. not in the intel community.

i'm not a fan of this. war crimes happen. it's war. not to justify, but it's reality, and it's on both sides. this country does plenty of illegal shit to protect it's citizens and further it's national interests. not unlike every other country in the world.

al gore said it best:

"That's a no-brainer. Of course it's a violation of international law, that's why it's a covert action."

Kevin 08-26-2010 09:33 AM

Hopefully, this sort of thing will change our government's behavior. Maybe they'll not do things and think those things will stay secret forever if they are just classified a certain way. Doubtful, of course.

preciousjeni 08-26-2010 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1975268)
Ha! I've never been referred to as being psychotic or paranoid in my life. Good thing you are here to diagnose me.

BTW, Would the guy who leaked the Afghan War Diaries be considered paranoid with this statement he made?

"Everywhere there’s a U.S. post, there’s a diplomatic scandal that will be revealed."

Only teasing (but, I do agree with the quote).

KSig RC 08-26-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1975375)
Hopefully, this sort of thing will change our government's behavior. Maybe they'll not do things and think those things will stay secret forever if they are just classified a certain way. Doubtful, of course.

Yep - the sort of Nicholson-movie-quote "BAD GUYS DO BAD THINGS TO PROTECT GOOD PEOPLE" trope is tired and outdated in a general sense, and certainly shouldn't be carried out on the foot-soldier level regardless of location.

I can't see a downside to better transparency and accountability for military actions. War is hell, but it shouldn't breed heathenism.


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