Vatican: Everyone can use condoms to prevent HIV

[Kevin]

The Catholic Church in recent years has made it awfully difficult to support the Pope. I'm a life-long Catholic, but have recently been considering the Episcopal Church in the wake of the Pope's involvement with covering up sex abuse and some of the church's views.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by Kevin

The Catholic Church in recent years has made it awfully difficult to support the Pope. I'm a life-long Catholic, but have recently been considering the Episcopal Church in the wake of the Pope's involvement with covering up sex abuse and some of the church's views.

the catholic church has made it hard to support the catholic church.

LOL.

i'm still a catholic, but i hit the non-denoms now. i never really got anything out of the homily and would just stare into space. or text.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

How many people had to die of AIDS before the Vatican came to its senses about condoms? About 25 million, over the course of the last 30 years. It's pretty extraordinary that until now, preventing pregnancy was considered a worse sin than spreading death. This is a source of moral leadership?

I'm sorry, this is what happens when you seek sexual guidance from a geriatric virgin wearing a dress.

Now, to play devil's advocate, if the people with AIDs were following the Catholic Church's teachings it wouldn't have been spread so fast and might never have become an epidemic. It's harder to blame the Pope for causing the problem when it's fairly obvious the relevant individuals are not listening to him anyway. Realistic? No. But at least it's internally consistent.

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

My pastor was talking recently about people who make the arguement thay the Bible couldn't possibly account for all of the scientific and social develoments of the modern world. The problem with that line of thinking is that most Christian religions take the Bible as the divine Word of God, or at the very least the Inspired Word of God. That being the case, can you really argue that God didn't know what kind of shape the world would be in 2010?

Beyond the other things mentioned you could take the stance that the human writers of the Bible, divinely inspired though they may be, could not have comprehended the modern world and thus couldn't have written much about it if at all. Question then would be why aren't there more scriptures being written now and recognized as God's word. Answer to that would be that the basics are covered in the current book so deal.

Gets damned confusing after a while.

ETA: Anyone know of any sort of sites where theological debates happen as a matter of course? I'm looking for some place where someone could attempt to counteract my thought processes and provide me with some different points of view. Almost a "Try to convert me, please" thing but with someone far more educated than our local hobbit. Unless anyone here would like to volunteer...

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Now, to play devil's advocate, if the people with AIDs were following the Catholic Church's teachings it wouldn't have been spread so fast and might never have become an epidemic. It's harder to blame the Pope for causing the problem when it's fairly obvious the relevant individuals are not listening to him anyway. Realistic? No. But at least it's internally consistent.

We all know the Pope didn't cause the problem, it was the CIA.

*adjusts tin foil hat*