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knight_shadow

11-23-2010 03:12 PM

Vatican: Everyone can use condoms to prevent HIV

Another Yahoo story re: HIV

Quote:

VATICAN CITY – Using a condom is a lesser evil than transmitting HIV to a sexual partner — even if that means a woman averts a possible pregnancy, the Vatican said Tuesday, signaling a seismic shift in papal teaching as it explained Pope Benedict XVI's comments.

The Vatican has long been criticized for its patent opposition to condom use, particularly in Africa where AIDS is rampant. But the latest interpretation of Benedict's comments about condoms and HIV essentially means the Roman Catholic Church is acknowledging that its long-held, anti-birth control stance against condoms doesn't justify putting someone's life at risk.

"This is a game-changer," said the Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit editor and writer. "By acknowledging that condoms help prevent spread of HIV between people in sexual relationships, the pope has completely changed the Catholic discussion on condoms."

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DrPhil

11-23-2010 03:14 PM

Religion aside....

DUH

knight_shadow

11-23-2010 03:15 PM

(more for clarification, and not directed to you, DrPhil, as I'm sure you already know this)

Everyone is allowed to use condoms, not everyone has the ability to use condoms.

DrPhil

11-23-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2006182)

(more for clarification, and not directed to you, DrPhil, as I'm sure you already know this)

Everyone is allowed to use condoms, not everyone has the ability to use condoms.

Perhaps I already know this but with different wording. LOL. What does this mean?

knight_shadow

11-23-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2006184)

Perhaps I already know this but with different wording. LOL. What does this mean?

Christians are supposed to have sex with the intent of making children. Wearing condoms prevents that. Now, the Vatican is saying staying clear of STDs > making babies.

DrPhil

11-23-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2006186)

Christians are supposed to have sex with the intent of making children. Wearing condoms prevents that. Now, the Vatican is saying staying clear of STDs > making babies.

Do you mean Catholics and not Christians, as a whole?

Anyway, religion aside...DUH.

knight_shadow

11-23-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2006187)

Do you mean Catholics and not Christians, as a whole?

Mostly Catholics, but I've heard it spill over into other denominations as well.

I guess that wouldn't matter, though, since we're talking about the Vatican :o

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2006187)

Anyway, religion aside...DUH.

Lol

MysticCat

11-23-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2006186)

Catholics are not supposed to have sex unless procreation is possible.

Fixed your post for you. ;)

(Apparently, I was a little slow about it, though.)

DrPhil

11-23-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2006188)

Mostly Catholics, but I've heard it spill over into other denominations as well.

I guess that wouldn't matter, though, since we're talking about the Vatican :o

Yeah, it hasn't spilled over to all denominations and condoms prevent all spillage. :)

KSig RC

11-23-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2006187)

Do you mean Catholics and not Christians, as a whole?

Catholics aren't the only sect that believes sex should be reserved for procreation, although they are the primary (by size).

Either way, this is both a "game-changer" in Vatican terms, and also terribly boring for everyone else. The fact that the Vatican still has to do business like this - making proclamations decades after the fact - seems rough for everyone involved, although I do laud it for doing the right thing here.

DrPhil

11-23-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 2006191)

Either way, this is both a "game-changer" in Vatican terms, and also terribly boring for everyone else. The fact that the Vatican still has to do business like this - making proclamations decades after the fact - seems rough for everyone involved, although I do laud it for doing the right thing here.

LOL. Thus is the institution of religion.

MysticCat

11-23-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 2006191)

Catholics aren't the only sect that believes sex should be reserved for procreation . . . .

But those other Christians who believe this tend to be certain fundamentalist Protestants, for whom the position of the Vatican is totally irrelevant.

KSig RC

11-23-2010 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2006193)

But those other Christians who believe this tend to be certain fundamentalist Protestants, for whom the position of the Vatican is totally irrelevant.

Very true. Also there was supposed to be an "unfortunately" in there somewhere re: the fundamentalist segment, since many, many things are irrelevant to them besides the Vatican. Like modernity or common sense or logic or the concept of allegory.

MysticCat

11-23-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 2006197)

Also there was supposed to be an "unfortunately" in there somewhere re: the fundamentalist segment, since many, many things are irrelevant to them besides the Vatican. Like modernity or common sense or logic or the concept of allegory.

Yep.

DrPhil

11-23-2010 03:39 PM

Uh oh. As long as this doesn't turn into the theology thread mixed with frodobaggins' thread. LOL.

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