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11-01-2010, 10:51 PM
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My alma mater requires all official Greek events to be approved in advance by the Greek life advisor. On top of that, my organization (as well as a few others) have to get approval from I/HQ. I never saw it as a big deal, even as an undergrad.
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Even if all official Greek events have to be approved, you know that "Golf Pros and Tennis Hoes will get submitted as "Fun Golf Party with Iced Tea and Lemonade, yay!!!1!". .. But will obviously be referred to as a Bros and Hoes party behind the scenes.
[/QUOTE]Ditto what southbymidwest said. Individuals wearing costumes do not represent GLOs and universities.[/QUOTE]
You'd be surprised.. All it takes is one complaint...
I know of a chapter who was in huge trouble with their GLO because a member at a Halloween party dressed as a (pretty funny) African American who's famous, and they painted their face black. One person was offended, they reported it to the school, the national organization caught wind of it, and the whole chapter was in trouble for it.
While I agree that the names of these parties are more offensive to women, its not the names that make these parties continue.. Its the girls that are willing to dress like sluts. And as long as that happens, guys will continue to have "hoes" somehow included in the name.
When I was in college, one fraternity had a Pimps and Hoes party. My friend and I decided that we'd go, but we bought hats and canes, made our own bling, and showed up as pimps. Guys complained that we "cheated"..
Everyone can choose what they wear, regardless of what the theme is.. And if girls want to dress like hoes, they will.. And if they want to avoid that, they'll use their heads and find a way around it.
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11-01-2010, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06
Even if all official Greek events have to be approved, you know that "Golf Pros and Tennis Hoes will get submitted as "Fun Golf Party with Iced Tea and Lemonade, yay!!!1!". .. But will obviously be referred to as a Bros and Hoes party behind the scenes.
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I'm obviously thinking from a non-IFC/NPC POV, so my idea of a party is different. With us, we host our events at a club (or similar location) and use quarter fliers to promote them. We have to get the fliers approved before printing, and if the "wrong" flyer shows up after a party is approved, we get put on social suspension (school and GLO). That's enough incentive to stay away from juvenile names.
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Ditto what southbymidwest said. Individuals wearing costumes do not represent GLOs and universities.
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You'd be surprised.. All it takes is one complaint...
I know of a chapter who was in huge trouble with their GLO because a member at a Halloween party dressed as a (pretty funny) African American who's famous, and they painted their face black. One person was offended, they reported it to the school, the national organization caught wind of it, and the whole chapter was in trouble for it.
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That NHQ reacted poorly.
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11-02-2010, 08:15 AM
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I'm obviously thinking from a non-IFC/NPC POV, so my idea of a party is different. With us, we host our events at a club (or similar location) and use quarter fliers to promote them. We have to get the fliers approved before printing, and if the "wrong" flyer shows up after a party is approved, we get put on social suspension (school and GLO). That's enough incentive to stay away from juvenile names.
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Ok, I'll give you this. It's a different situation than a typical party at a fraternity house.
No doubt. But to assume that a chapter is exempt from punishment because of the actions of one person is ridiculous... especially in this day and age.
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11-02-2010, 11:06 AM
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No doubt. But to assume that a chapter is exempt from punishment because of the actions of one person is ridiculous... especially in this day and age.
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No -- for an organization to hold an entire chapter accountable for the (non-Greek related) actions of one of its members is ridiculous in this day and age.
Our GLOs are filled with people from all different backgrounds and grown men and women (even if their actions say otherwise). Assuming that 1) the chapter knew what said member was planning on doing and 2) thinking that an 18-year-old could stop a, say, 20-year-old from doing what s/he wants to do is ridiculous.
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11-04-2010, 04:12 PM
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No -- for an organization to hold an entire chapter accountable for the (non-Greek related) actions of one of its members is ridiculous in this day and age.
Our GLOs are filled with people from all different backgrounds and grown men and women (even if their actions say otherwise). Assuming that 1) the chapter knew what said member was planning on doing and 2) thinking that an 18-year-old could stop a, say, 20-year-old from doing what s/he wants to do is ridiculous.
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Trust me.. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm only saying that I'm not surprised it happened.
Better to be safe than sorry, I say. However, if I was in a chapter that was held accountable as a whole for a stupid decision that one person made, I would fight it tooth-and-nail.
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11-04-2010, 04:24 PM
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Trust me.. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm only saying that I'm not surprised it happened.
Better to be safe than sorry, I say. However, if I was in a chapter that was held accountable as a whole for a stupid decision that one person made, I would fight it tooth-and-nail.
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Yep
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11-04-2010, 03:26 PM
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I'm obviously thinking from a non-IFC/NPC POV, so my idea of a party is different. With us, we host our events at a club (or similar location) and use quarter fliers to promote them. We have to get the fliers approved before printing, and if the "wrong" flyer shows up after a party is approved, we get put on social suspension (school and GLO). That's enough incentive to stay away from juvenile names.
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Ditto. THe fliers and party names have to get approved by the school.
Unofficial parties can have whatever name they want to have (if any).
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