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[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That isn't covered in many history classes especially many history classes in the South.

Are you from the south?

I haven't met anyone yet that thinks all white people in the 1800's were drinking lemonade on the porch of their large plantation home.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Are you from the south?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I haven't met anyone yet that thinks all white people in the 1800's were drinking lemonade on the porch of their large plantation home.

I have.

That extends to people who don't know the history behind "redneck." These things are not taught in many schools and that includes the predominantly Black schools. Children are taught what the school districts want them to learn and that varies based on the area. My siblings and I learned most of the things that we learned because both of our parents are educators who believed that learning is what happens before kids leave for school and after the kids get back home.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yes.



I have.

That extends to people who don't know the history behind "redneck." These things are not taught in many schools and that includes the predominantly Black schools. Children are taught what the school districts want them to learn and that varies based on the area. My siblings and I learned most of the things that we learned because both of our parents are educators who believed that learning is what happens before kids leave for school and after the kids get back home.

I do not believe it is an issue limited to the south, and never will. It has more to do with "good school" vs. "bad school" though that is obviously over simplifying the issue.

I would say the majority of my friends/sisters/classmates in undergrad were from southern states (Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee) and I truly haven't met anyone that wasn't aware that there were social classes, even if they had a rudimentary understanding of said social classes.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Oh I don't think it's North vs. South. My comment about friends in VA is based on fact, but I can't speak to the VA school system as a whole. But certain ideas are more common in the South, or the West, or the North East based on the history and culture of those areas. The teachers bring their biases (and so do the school boards and administrators) and those biases are influenced by their culture so patterns probably emerge that I'm not qualified to discuss as I don't study education the way I study mental health and other things.

I see, sorry for jumping on that assumption...I probably do tend to be defensive about that, having spent time up north with a few people who don't understand that assuming all my relatives are inbred is ignorant.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I do not believe it is an issue limited to the south, and never will.

It isn't limited to the South and you're the one trying to make this North vs South. This is a thread about an Old South movie and people in the South tend to highly regard that era more than other regions of the country do.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Are you from the south?

I haven't met anyone yet that thinks all white people in the 1800's were drinking lemonade on the porch of their large plantation home.

I was being facetious. But plenty of people kind of ... forget... about poor people or minorities or how hard it was to be a woman during those time periods in favor of the mental image that is in their heads.

It's a bit like people who idealize the pioneer days when MEN WERE MEN and we killed our own food and claimed our own land.*

(*And women died in childbirth and families died from all sorts of things and we killed other people to take their land and cut all the trees down which reduced the ability of the soil to stay put in droughts, etc.)

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I was being facetious. But plenty of people kind of ... forget... about poor people or minorities or how hard it was to be a woman during those time periods in favor of the mental image that is in their heads.

It's a bit like people who idealize the pioneer days when MEN WERE MEN and we killed our own food and claimed our own land.*

(*And women died in childbirth and families died from all sorts of things and we killed other people to take their land and cut all the trees down which reduced the ability of the soil to stay put in droughts, etc.)

Oh man I can't imagine idealizing the pioneer days. *Shudder*. Haven't these people played Oregon Trail?

[SWTXBelle]

I caught the tail end of a show featuring a woman who gave birth with no outside prenatal care or help - unexpectedly gave birth to breech twins. Her husband said she was just doing it "Like they did in the old days" - um, you mean when infant and maternal mortality rates were through the roof? They were lucky - it all turned out well - but it was LUCK. Old ways aren't always the best ways.