Obama has won a Nobel - Page 6

Psi U MC Vito · #76 10-09-2009, 01:57 PM

I agree though. There are so many other people who deserve this award greater then he does.

wrigley · #77 10-09-2009, 02:02 PM

I wonder what President Obama intends to do with the prize money. I'd like to see it donated somewhere instead of just sitting in the bank.

DrPhil · #78 10-09-2009, 02:07 PM

Daemonseid, don't PM me. If you're done discussing in this thread then keep your stupid thoughts, about how predictable we are and how we made your boring day, to yourself.

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Originally Posted by wrigley

I wonder what President Obama intends to do with the prize money. I'd like to see it donated somewhere instead of just sitting in the bank.

He probably will donate it. That donation to a worthy cause may also calm the critics a bit.

DaemonSeid · #79 10-09-2009, 02:09 PM

There is a delete button...you don't have to read it!

*snickers*

keep dancing!

crescent&pearls · #80 10-09-2009, 02:25 PM

I think he should invest the prize money in an urban co-op farm and give peas a chance.

I'm sorry. It's Friday.

chickenoodle · #81 10-09-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by crescent&pearls

I think he should invest the prize money in an urban co-op farm and give peas a chance.

I'm sorry. It's Friday.

deepimpact2 · #82 10-09-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Obama doesn't deserve a Nobel Prize.

Well someone else clearly felt differently about the matter and thank goodness for that. He was shocked about it though, and he issued a very humble statement indicating such.

I'm happy he won it. I'm sorry that so many people want to question it and say he doesn't deserve it, but that's the way of life. Some people will never feel that he deserves ANY accolades no matter WHAT he accomplishes.

deepimpact2 · #83 10-09-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Little32

And regardless of what folks say (and sometimes you folks are just too much for me)
ETA: It never ceases to amaze me how folk who don't run anything but their mouths try to second guess those who are in a position to make these awards. Why do you all get to say he doesn't deserve the award, when according to the judgement of the folks that vote for these prizes year-in and year-out, he does. Give me a break.

Yeah and yeah to both statements in bold.

Kevin · #84 10-09-2009, 03:24 PM

It's good that the world's view of our President is positive. Hopefully that translates into something. Obama has done a lot in changing the tone of our foreign policy. Hopefully that translates into something good down the line.

Like it or not, the mere attitude of the President of the United States can do wonders to affect the rest of the world and it has. Kudos to the President.

KSigkid · #85 10-09-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

He probably will donate it. That donation to a worthy cause may also calm the critics a bit.

I think the White House just announced in the last hour or so that he would be donating the money. I'd be surprised if anyone thought he'd keep it.

Kappamd · #86 10-09-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Well someone else clearly felt differently about the matter and thank goodness for that. He was shocked about it though, and he issued a very humble statement indicating such.

I'm happy he won it. I'm sorry that so many people want to question it and say he doesn't deserve it, but that's the way of life. Some people will never feel that he deserves ANY accolades no matter WHAT he accomplishes.

Because we're still waiting for him to accomplish something!

Psi U MC Vito · #87 10-09-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kappamd

Because we're still waiting for him to accomplish something!

Exactly. I support Obama and think he is a decent president as of now. But the fact of the matter is that he was nominated based on half a term in senate, campaign promises, and less then 2 weeks on president. What can he have done in that time that would advance world peace?

Kappamd · #88 10-09-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Exactly. I support Obama and think he is a decent president as of now. But the fact of the matter is that he was nominated based on half a term in senate, campaign promises, and less then 2 weeks on president. What can he have done in that time that would advance world peace?

Exactly. I support Obama as well and I didn't even vote for him. I think some of his policies and ideas have promise, but as of yet, we haven't seen any results from him. Yes, its nice that he WANTS world peace and all, but so does Miss America. I don't see her with a Nobel.

KSig RC · #89 10-09-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Little32

I know.

And no Phil, I wasn't referring to you.

OK, "insane" was clearly hyperbole, but the point still holds: "the committee should be trusted" is specious at best, and demonstrably false at worst. You clearly have to do better than that here, but you refuse to.

How about this? "You can't be serious?" which, at least in terms of connotation, is functionally identical. "Boarding the crazy train" is not.

Also, what exactly do you run, Little32, that gives you the ability to judge this as correct? It's a two-way road - your detractors don't play by different rules, do they? That wouldn't seem very egalitarian of you, and certainly could be construed as ignoble (if you'll allow the pun).

Also, DS - I don't even get what you're talking about, so let's play a game . . . if "we" are so predictable, who did I vote for last election?

Little32 · #90 10-09-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

OK, "insane" was clearly hyperbole, but the point still holds: "the committee should be trusted" is specious at best, and demonstrably false at worst. You clearly have to do better than that here, but you refuse to.

How about this? "You can't be serious?" which, at least in terms of connotation, is functionally identical. "Boarding the crazy train" is not.

First, to the bold: yes, it is and no one chided you on it, though you "struck the first blow."

Second, I don't blindly support anybody, but I do acknowledge that they and not I have been entrusted to make these decisions and award these prizes. As the Foundation is a private entity, I understand that any protest or objection that I might raise, for this specific scenario, is generally pointless and perhaps presumptuous; much in the same way that someone outside of your fraternity could not really make any protests about members that you admit to your fraternity, at least none that you would consider worthy of acknowledgement and, honestly, most of which you would probably deride.

The committee collectively decided that Obama deserved the honor and they are the ones that matter with regards to the prize, which is theirs to give. To me, that's the bottom line to the question of merit. To paraphrase a colleague, only in America could a Nobel Peace Prize inspire so much hate.

Edit to address your edit: The things that I run, I take care of. My whole point is that the decision of the committee of this private organization--in which the assertion of merit is implicit--should be respected. What does all of this second-guessing gain anyone? Why do people feel that their perspective has more merit or validity than those of the people that were chosen to sit on this committee? Why does anyone feel a need to talk about who does or does not deserve the prize? What is the point?