Survivor: Samoa

[ASTalumna06]

I know that a little while back, someone had wondered if Jeff knew about what was going on around camp, because he seemed to ask very specific questions at tribal council. I'm assuming he HAS to be in the know. Otherwise, why would he randomly ask Shambo about her hair at the reward challenge?

I definitely couldn't help but laugh when he asked her why she hadn't changed her hairstyle, and she replied with something along the lines of, "Why change perfection?"

And I nearly died when Russell was saying that she was probably hiding food in her mullett. LOL

I don't think I was too surprised to see Shambo go. However, I kind of wanted to have Brett leave to see how the Foa Foas would duke it out (and yes, I basically consider Shambo a Foa Foa). On the other hand, I kind of like Brett and think that it was smart of him to lay low for most of the game. On the other hand (yes, I have three hands), if he's in the finals, I think he'll have a VERY good chance of winning the whole thing, and it might not make the whole thing too exciting.

Let's face it... Brett hasn't done much the entire game.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I know that a little while back, someone had wondered if Jeff knew about what was going on around camp, because he seemed to ask very specific questions at tribal council. I'm assuming he HAS to be in the know. Otherwise, why would he randomly ask Shambo about her hair at the reward challenge?

I definitely couldn't help but laugh when he asked her why she hadn't changed her hairstyle, and she replied with something along the lines of, "Why change perfection?"

And I nearly died when Russell was saying that she was probably hiding food in her mullett. LOL

I don't think I was too surprised to see Shambo go. However, I kind of wanted to have Brett leave to see how the Foa Foas would duke it out (and yes, I basically consider Shambo a Foa Foa). On the other hand, I kind of like Brett and think that it was smart of him to lay low for most of the game. On the other hand (yes, I have three hands), if he's in the finals, I think he'll have a VERY good chance of winning the whole thing, and it might not make the whole thing too exciting.

Let's face it... Brett hasn't done much the entire game.

See, I think it would be kindof exciting if Brett or Natalie were to win, because they've certainly edited the whole season to highlight Russell. Which is what makes me think that he doesn't make it to the finale or win. If he wins, I will be bored. I find it really frustrating that Jaison, Natalie, Mick and everyone else in this game just sits back and lets Russell make all the calls. Why would you let someone else decide your fate in this game? If you're Natalie or Jaison, and you believe that Russell will really take you to the end, what makes you think that you stand a chance of winning next to him? The jury doesn't know about everything he's been saying behind their backs - if he's there in the finale, I think he could win...except for maybe if Brett is there, since most of the Jury is Galu and even the Foa Foas I think could appreciate his strategy so far. As for Mick, I think he's nuts for not pairing up with Natalie, Brett and Shambo to kick off Russell this week. And I think Russell was foolish to kick off Shambo because I don't think anyone would vote for her to win a million. bucks.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

As for Mick, I think he's nuts for not pairing up with Natalie, Brett and Shambo to kick off Russell this week.

Well, Mick didn't really have the chance to kick off Russell this week - Russell had the hidden immunity idol. I think the game will be different now that the HII can't come into play, and we might see a more sincere attempt to get rid of Russell.

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

And I think Russell was foolish to kick off Shambo because I don't think anyone would vote for her to win a million. bucks.

I agree 100%.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

See, I think it would be kindof exciting if Brett or Natalie were to win, because they've certainly edited the whole season to highlight Russell. Which is what makes me think that he doesn't make it to the finale or win.

I am completely for Natalie winning. She seemed to actually try to strategize, she helped around camp, she has definitely surprised me, and she no longer comes off as the "clueless southern girl."

Brett hasn't been highlighted... at all. I just don't see what he's done to earn the win besides sit back and let everyone else make the decisions. I wouldn't vote for him simply because he's been riding everyone else's coattails the entire game, and he hasn't sweated one bit.

I find it really frustrating that Jaison, Natalie, Mick and everyone else in this game just sits back and lets Russell make all the calls. Why would you let someone else decide your fate in this game?

I don't think that Jaison has been "sitting back" whatsoever. I think he's just as smart as Russell, if not, smarter. The only mistake he made was telling members of the other team how much money Russell makes, because obviously that would get back to him. I think Russell would have tried to vote Jaison out after that, IF he didn't need him at that point.

Mick confuses me. Sometimes he seems cool and collected, and other times he seems frantic and panicked. I'm not sure of the role he's played in all of the strategy and scheming.

If you're Natalie or Jaison, and you believe that Russell will really take you to the end, what makes you think that you stand a chance of winning next to him? The jury doesn't know about everything he's been saying behind their backs - if he's there in the finale, I think he could win...except for maybe if Brett is there, since most of the Jury is Galu and even the Foa Foas I think could appreciate his strategy so far. As for Mick, I think he's nuts for not pairing up with Natalie, Brett and Shambo to kick off Russell this week.

First, I don't know that they think they'll win against Russell. If I could have worked with Russell and moved up this far in the game, then I definitely would have... but I wouldn't let it go much further than this.

Secondly, voting for Russell this week would have been stupid knowing that he could easily have played the immunity idol. There would have been too much scrambling to figure out a Plan B if Russell used it. Voting out Shambo was the easy way out. I would have done the same thing.

And as I've said before, I don't see Russell as much of a threat. His strategy really hasn't been THAT amazing. And it's not as though he's winning every immunity challenge. I think that if the tables were turned, and Foa Foa had gone into the merge with twice as many people as Galu, Russell probably would have been gone a long time ago. I think everyone else used him, just as much as he used them in order to get as far as they have.

And I think Russell was foolish to kick off Shambo because I don't think anyone would vote for her to win a million. bucks.

I was definitely confused by this. However, Russell might have thrown himself under the bus by voting for someone else. Shambo was one of those "oh well, she's gone" kind of votes, so there is generally still harmony among the group. He might have seen it as an easier way to manipulate people going into the final 5.

[AGDee]

Finale time, don't forget!

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Finale time, don't forget!

It isn't on! 60 Minutes is still on! I'm gonna be upset if I don't get to watch Survivor!!!

[AGDee]

Weird, it started on time here. Must be a geographical thing. Was there a football game on earlier there? There wasn't here.

[Kappamd]

This is so lame. ________ did not deserve to win.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

This is so lame. ________ did not deserve to win.

Agreed

[SWTXBelle]

I'm so happy you-know-who didn't win!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I'm so happy you-know-who didn't win!

He was CRYING on the reunion show! Is it really THAT serious?

Kinda makes me think that he doesn't make it very far next season. Of course, I said the same thing about Amanda last time, because she didn't look emaciated, and look what happened...

Is it me, or did Natalie put on A LOT of weight? Not saying I blame her, but I think the difference was shocking. She was a tiny girl going in, too, so it wasn't just the starvation there - she's definitely bigger now than before she started playing.


Also, did anyone else notice how archaic the footage of Rich Hatch winning looked in comparison to today's Survivor?

[srmom]

My DVR cut out, who won the fan vote of $100,000?

I also was surprised by Russel's non-stop crying at the finale. It obviously meant ALOT to him to be the "Sole Survivor". I hated him at the beginning, I thought he was a jerk throughout, but I do believe he earned the million dollars. BUT, I knew that the people in Ponderosa were not the type to vote based on strategy, they were petty to the other bootees, they sure as heck weren't going to reward game play! They voted for the one they "liked" the most. UGH!

And, it REALLY pissed me off to hear Eric talk about how "bad" Russel was and how "good" Natalie was. She not only LEThim be the bad guy, she encouraged the behavior, and she totally benefitted from it!! How can she be exempt from the fallout?

And, Eric - it's SURVIVOR!! Outwit, Outplay, Out survive! If you think it should all be truthful and fair, and that only "good" people should win, then DON't watch the show! And, why in heaven's name did you go ON the show? Did you actually think you could make it to the end without being shady at times? Even Yul, my all time fav, had to pull some shady deals to win!! Have you watched the show?

[PeppyGPhiB]

I totally agreed with Eric's (and Jeff's) take: Natalie's strategy was just as valid as Russell's. I've watched Survivor from the beginning, and I've seen so many people win with many different strategies. Some people win by being nice, some win by messing with everyone, and some win because they skate under the radar and impress everyone with how they got away with it. My take on Survivor has always been that whomever wins deserves it, because they ultimately got to that point by generally being well liked and not annoying/jerky (can't get the jury votes), not intimidating (gets you kicked off), playing really strong in the immunity challenges at the end, or playing so ruthlessly that for some reason the jury respects you for it. In this case, though Russell played ruthlessly, he rubbed some people the wrong way. He also masterminded the voting off of Galu, which made up the majority of the jury. Anyway, whatever your strategy - whether that was letting someone else pull the strings or not - if it gets you to the end, you deserve to win. In fact, I think if you can get away with that, it makes you a brilliant player!

Natalie performed strong in the challenges, but since she's a girl she wasn't noticed for that until the end when it was almost all guys. Russell picked her to go to the end because he thought she was a weak, stupid girl and would annoy the other tribemates - but that wasn't the case. She didn't do anything to ruffle anyone's feathers, and by the time they got to the end, Russell needed her for votes and so he couldn't vote her off. Russell's mistake was voting off Shambo when he should have voted out Natalie.

Cliff's Notes version: Natalie deserved to win because whatever she did in the game, it got her to the same place as Russell and won her more votes.

[SWTXBelle]

Russell won the fan vote, and continues to be a colossal ass about not winning, even saying Natalie didn't deserve it. Um, last time I checked, the winner was the person who 1.) made it to the finals and 2.) got the most votes.

And who in the world would want to do business with him? He can say he's different IRL, but his behavior last night and today proves otherwise.

The villains next season should be interesting - how do you use your sneaky skill set when everyone KNOWS who and what you are?

[Psi U MC Vito]

Is there a cast list yet for that?