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07-01-2009, 02:21 PM
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I use the word colored with my friends pretty often when referring to us as a group or something like that. (They are mostly Hispanic.)
I would not mind if an older person or most other people using it in a non-offensive way referred to me as colored. I am colored. I am Black. I am American. I am Jamaican. What I don't like, is the term African-American. I will correct someone on that.
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07-01-2009, 02:42 PM
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I use the word colored with my friends pretty often when referring to us as a group or something like that. (They are mostly Hispanic.)
I would not mind if an older person or most other people using it in a non-offensive way referred to me as colored. I am colored. I am Black. I am American. I am Jamaican. What I don't like, is the term African-American. I will correct someone on that.
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So far we have some black people that prefer the term African American and some that do not. We also have some that don't mind the term colored and others that get all uppity if they hear the term colored. Why bother trying to be pc?
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07-01-2009, 02:52 PM
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Why bother trying to be pc?
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for a social experiment, use the word colored in a predominantly black neighborhood. you might get the answer you're looking for.
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07-01-2009, 03:14 PM
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for a social experiment, use the word colored in a predominantly black neighborhood. you might get the answer you're looking for.
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Yep.
madmax's e-courage is hilarious.
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07-01-2009, 03:25 PM
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Since we don't know him/her, we don't know what he/she would do.
Madmax could be an 80 yo woman with time on her hands. Either case, why does GC keep acknowledging madmax's existence? It's no longer shocking or unpredictable.
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Eh, something to do :shrug:
I'd rather read this garbage than a brutally honest recruitment thread
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07-01-2009, 03:29 PM
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Eh, something to do :shrug:
I'd rather read this garbage than a brutally honest recruitment thread 
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If you are that bored, go play tetris.
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07-01-2009, 03:32 PM
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Nah, I'm good here.
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07-01-2009, 02:52 PM
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So far we have some black people that prefer the term African American and some that do not. We also have some that don't mind the term colored and others that get all uppity if they hear the term colored. Why bother trying to be pc?
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Sweetie, not all black people are Af.-Am. I know it's hard to wrap your head around it. I know it's difficult because you maybe can't tell the difference and don't understand why it's important for all people to be able to identify themselves as they see fit. However, that's what makes us unique and makes us people. It's true of everyone on this earth. At the end of the day we are not a collective. We self-define. There is no one-size-fits-all.
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07-01-2009, 02:58 PM
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Sweetie, not all black people are Af.-Am. I know it's hard to wrap your head around it. I know it's difficult because you maybe can't tell the difference and don't understand why it's important for all people to be able to identify themselves as they see fit. However, that's what makes us unique and makes us people. It's true of everyone on this earth. At the end of the day we are not a collective. We self-define. There is no one-size-fits-all.
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07-01-2009, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax
So far we have some black people that prefer the term African American and some that do not. We also have some that don't mind the term colored and others that get all uppity if they hear the term colored. Why bother trying to be pc?
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There are people in the world who do not have a sense of smell, and some who do. Let us begin using madmax's logic and not bother trying to conceal our flatulence.
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07-01-2009, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL
I use the word colored with my friends pretty often when referring to us as a group or something like that. (They are mostly Hispanic.)
I would not mind if an older person or most other people using it in a non-offensive way referred to me as colored. I am colored. I am Black. I am American. I am Jamaican. What I don't like, is the term African-American. I will correct someone on that.
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I assume you don't like it because you're not from Africa, which makes perfect sense. But how is someone supposed to know that? Are there noticeable differences in features or skin color?
I'm not trying to stir the pot here, just honestly asking.
This makes me think of an old WWII propaganda poster I saw once, the jist of which was "how to tell a Chinese person from a Japanese person so you're not unnecessarily mean to the Chinese person since it's not them we're pissed off at."
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07-01-2009, 10:35 PM
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I assume you don't like it because you're not from Africa, which makes perfect sense. But how is someone supposed to know that? Are there noticeable differences in features or skin color?
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No, there usually aren't features and skin color differences.
She and all other people of the African diaspora will just have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Being Jamaican or Brazilian, for example, are not racial designations. Black and African American are pretty standard. People can specify their cultural or ethnic designations from there. Black and African American are the least offensive and least nitpicky of the category labels, as far as I'm concerned. They originated for a reason.
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This makes me think of an old WWII propaganda poster I saw once, the jist of which was "how to tell a Chinese person from a Japanese person so you're not unnecessarily mean to the Chinese person since it's not them we're pissed off at."
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I consider that different than "Black people" from all over the globe. Chinese and Japanese are not only culturally but ethnically distinct within the "Asian" racial category. I can usually tell the difference because the different Asian ethnicities tend to have different physical features.
Does anyone remember the martial arts film "Chinese vs. Japanese?" Great film. A lot of people didn't know there WAS a difference before that film was released in America.
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07-01-2009, 10:47 PM
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I consider that different than "Black people" from all over the globe. Chinese and Japanese are not only culturally but ethnically distinct within the "Asian" racial category. I can usually tell the difference because the different Asian ethnicities tend to have different physical features.
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Definitely. That's what I was trying to point out - Ms Pink seemed to think that people should know, even when there ISN'T a pronounced physical difference (like Chinese and Japanese).
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07-01-2009, 10:49 PM
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Definitely. That's what I was trying to point out - Ms Pink seemed to think that people should know, even when there ISN'T a pronounced physical difference (like Chinese and Japanese).
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I don't think she thinks people should know. I think she just doesn't like African American and may express that opinion depending on the context.
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07-01-2009, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL
I use the word colored with my friends pretty often when referring to us as a group or something like that. (They are mostly Hispanic.)
I would not mind if an older person or most other people using it in a non-offensive way referred to me as colored. I am colored. I am Black. I am American. I am Jamaican. What I don't like, is the term African-American. I will correct someone on that.
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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL
Sweetie, not all black people are Af.-Am. I know it's hard to wrap your head around it. I know it's difficult because you maybe can't tell the difference and don't understand why it's important for all people to be able to identify themselves as they see fit. However, that's what makes us unique and makes us people. It's true of everyone on this earth. At the end of the day we are not a collective. We self-define. There is no one-size-fits-all.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 33girl
I assume you don't like it because you're not from Africa, which makes perfect sense. But how is someone supposed to know that? Are there noticeable differences in features or skin color?
I'm not trying to stir the pot here, just honestly asking.
This makes me think of an old WWII propaganda poster I saw once, the jist of which was "how to tell a Chinese person from a Japanese person so you're not unnecessarily mean to the Chinese person since it's not them we're pissed off at."
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
No, there usually aren't features and skin color differences.
She and all other people of the African diaspora will just have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Being Jamaican or Brazilian, for example, are not racial designations. Black and African American are pretty standard. People can specify their cultural or ethnic designations from there. Black and African American are the least offensive and least nitpicky of the category labels, as far as I'm concerned. They originated for a reason.
I consider that different than "Black people" from all over the globe. Chinese and Japanese are not only culturally but ethnically distinct within the "Asian" racial category. I can usually tell the difference because the different Asian ethnicities tend to have different physical features.
Does anyone remember the martial arts film "Chinese vs. Japanese?" Great film. A lot of people didn't know there WAS a difference before that film was released in America.
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These quotes sum up the question I was asking and the answer I was looking for. I really wasn't trying to act stupid and, as 33girl said, stir the pot.
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