Legacy with active sister, rushing in the fall - Page 2

Just interested · #16 06-01-2009, 06:51 PM

I don't know where you go to school D_Crayola_Z but that is totally not fair and untrue. There are campuses where there are, for example 80 legacies for 40 places and every legacy can't be XYZ even if the chapter filled their pledge class with only legacies. You can speak for your chapter at your school but for no other.

texas*princess · #17 06-01-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Crayola_Z

I would just like to point out that if you dont get a bid from a house that you're a legacy in they MUST MUST MUST have a veryyy good reason why they're not giving a bid. It's pretty much a done deal unless the actives know - and have good reason to back up the claim - that the legacy wont fit in.

This is NOT true. A chapter is not obligated to bid a woman just because she's a legacy. It is NOT a done deal. Ever.

re: my earlier post, I wasn't implying that the OP was freaking out. After re-reading it, I can see how I didn't articulate that well. I just didn't want the OP to stress out and worry about it.

agzg · #18 06-01-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Crayola_Z

I would just like to point out that if you dont get a bid from a house that you're a legacy in they MUST MUST MUST have a veryyy good reason why they're not giving a bid. It's pretty much a done deal unless the actives know - and have good reason to back up the claim - that the legacy wont fit in.

I'm seconding what everyone else is saying. Nothing is ever "a done deal."

Zillini · #19 06-01-2009, 07:40 PM

Have to agree with the above posters.

Crayola, I can only assume you come from a campus/chapter where legacies are a bit of a rarity. Practically guaranteed bids for legacies is a thing of the past. Just look at the results from any highly competitive recruitment or chapter that has more legacy PNMs than quota.

It's unwise, unfair, and uninformed to make blanket statements about all campuses and all chapters. Perpetuating this notion of legacy bid guarantees is one of the leading causes of PNM and mom, grandma, etc heartbreak. Not to mention the headaches it causes for the actives, advisors, IO's, etc who get the angry phone calls after a legacy has been released.

FSUZeta · #20 06-01-2009, 10:01 PM

nothing is a done deal, but i have to say to our op that she might have good reason to be concerned. while i have not been present at the membership selection and i am basing my opinion on conjecture, i have seen what appeared to be girls being released due to their legacy status to a strong chapter, only to then be dropped by the legacy house ,thus released from recruitment. it happens.

but how does one play the game? that i can't say. you could not list your legacy status on your recruitment enrollment form, ask your recommendation writers to not list it when they write a rec. to a non-legacy chapter, and not mention your status when conversing with members. if questioned by members,i would not lie-i would probably say something to the effect that my sister is a member of xyz sorority and she and you agree that you have to make your own mind up and find the place that suits you the best.

as others have said, nothing in life is a guarantee. put your best foot forward, be yourself and keep your options open. best wishes to you.

carnation · #21 06-01-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

nothing is a done deal, but i have to say to our op that she might have good reason to be concerned. while i have not been present at the membership selection and i am basing my opinion on conjecture, i have seen what appeared to be girls being released due to their legacy status to a strong chapter, only to then be dropped by the legacy house thus released from recruitment. it happens.

What she said. I've seen it happen a lot in the South. Keep your options open, don't blow off any chapter.

33girl · #22 06-01-2009, 10:33 PM

Agree with the last 2 posts - also, it may happen that you find yourself loving your sister's sorority anyway. Don't try to talk yourself out of it just for the sake of wanting to be on your own apart from your sister.

VandalSquirrel · #23 06-02-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by D_Crayola_Z

I would just like to point out that if you dont get a bid from a house that you're a legacy in they MUST MUST MUST have a veryyy good reason why they're not giving a bid. It's pretty much a done deal unless the actives know - and have good reason to back up the claim - that the legacy wont fit in.

I would just like to point out that you are highly misinformed. Maybe that is how membership selection*** in your chapter at your school works, but that is not the case everywhere, for every sorority, for every rush, or at any point in time. Regardless of legacy standing or not plenty of women do, or don't get into chapters, and I suggest you prowl around in the recruitment threads and see how we operate here (and campuses other than your own) before you start giving advice out to anyone. Every person, every rush, every school IS DIFFERENT.

*** FYI we do NOT discuss membership selection on GC, and it is often referred to as MS. The majority of us consider this private information, and the people who don't get on board fast.

AOII Angel · #24 06-02-2009, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Agree with the last 2 posts - also, it may happen that you find yourself loving your sister's sorority anyway. Don't try to talk yourself out of it just for the sake of wanting to be on your own apart from your sister.

I completely agree, 33girl. I went to rush swearing that I was going to be a Kappa Delta! In the end, my sister and I are very similar and very close (we're less than a year apart in age) so AOII fit me like a glove! Although Kappa Delta has a great chapter, I'm so glad I'm an AOII. Don't feel like choosing to join the same organization as your sister means that you guys don't have separate identities. It's okay to choose the same path as your sister...

As for the legacy issue, I think having an in house sister makes it much less likely that a PNM would be released from that house, but it did happen in my chapter resulting in one of my pledge sister's depledging. That was a horrible time in my chapter.

DDDlady · #25 06-02-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Crayola_Z

I would just like to point out that if you dont get a bid from a house that you're a legacy in they MUST MUST MUST have a veryyy good reason why they're not giving a bid. It's pretty much a done deal unless the actives know - and have good reason to back up the claim - that the legacy wont fit in.

Just jumping on the bandwagon, and I want to make sure the OP understands that this is utterly FALSE! At a big state school with a competitive Greek system, a chapter could have 100+ legacy girls coming through. There is NO WAY you can pledge them all. DO NOT rely on your legacy status to get you in. I was cut from my legacy early, and I am sure that many other women have had a similar experience. Just go in open minded, be yourself and quit over analyzing. Good luck!

cbm · #26 06-04-2009, 12:55 PM

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BSCKt · #27 06-10-2009, 11:40 PM

One of my sorority sisters was a triple legacy, and her sister is one of our advisers. She ALMOST went another sorority. She was a top pick at both our house, and the other. So, don't discount it too early.

Blue Skies · #28 06-16-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

but how does one play the game? that i can't say. you could not list your legacy status on your recruitment enrollment form, ask your recommendation writers to not list it when they write a rec. to a non-legacy chapter, and not mention your status when conversing with members. if questioned by members,i would not lie-i would probably say something to the effect that my sister is a member of xyz sorority and she and you agree that you have to make your own mind up and find the place that suits you the best.

I agree with this advice. There's no reason for non-legacy chapters to be informed about your status unless members of those chapters ask you about it directly (i.e. "Aren't you Susie ABC's sister?") If they already know, or find out anyway, that is beyond your control.

The best possible response to questions is that you are keeping an open mind, which you should be doing anyway. As others have stated, there are no guarantees with regard to bidding.

Good luck to you! Have fun going through recruitment and stay positive.

cbm · #29 06-16-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DDDlady

Just jumping on the bandwagon, and I want to make sure the OP understands that this is utterly FALSE! At a big state school with a competitive Greek system, a chapter could have 100+ legacy girls coming through. There is NO WAY you can pledge them all. DO NOT rely on your legacy status to get you in. I was cut from my legacy early, and I am sure that many other women have had a similar experience. Just go in open minded, be yourself and quit over analyzing. Good luck!

There is a difference between legacy and in-house legacy (for my organization, at least). Speaking from my experience, in-house legacy has more clout than regular legacy.

FSUZeta · #30 06-16-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cbm

There is a difference between legacy and in-house legacy (for my organization, at least). Speaking from my experience, in-house legacy has more clout than regular legacy.

are you sure that it is your organization, or could it be your chapter? No matter what, it is in a pnms best interest to not assume her legacy status, be it "regular" or in-house will be an easy in.