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06-07-2009, 12:33 AM
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Potter's Syndrome and Anecephaly were two of the big ones I was thinking of when I wrote my post about non-viable babies. There's another I learned about in biology class in which the embryo fails to turn into a fetus and becomes like a type of parasitic tumor that can kill the mother. What about that? Some would even argue that it would be wrong to terminate that pregnancy.
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06-07-2009, 03:04 PM
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There has to be cases where a fetus needs and has to be terminated for the health of the parent and the fetus. So if the fetus goes to term and becomes a vegetable as it were, is that right? Dr. Tiller I am sure was a caring person and only did what he thought was best, not for the money. It is sad that a deminted person took it upon himself to slay him and in a church to boot. Being in the world of drugs, the options are very scary according to the ads of what can happen? Are the cures correct enough to offset the cures and cause further problems and even death.
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06-07-2009, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tri deezy
There's another I learned about in biology class in which the embryo fails to turn into a fetus and becomes like a type of parasitic tumor that can kill the mother. What about that?
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Beyond gross. Is it similar or the same as this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus_in_fetu
I know of lesser reasons to terminate a pregnancy, but I definitely see nothing wrong with aborting a tumor that is "alive," but is basically nothingness.
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So if the fetus goes to term and becomes a vegetable as it were, is that right?
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No, it isn't right.
However, many disagree with me. It's fine to disagree and for people to choose whatever works for them and is within legal boundaries. That's what pro- choice means to me.
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06-07-2009, 10:34 PM
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No, not fetus in fetu. That's not necessarily fatal and that's when the fetus becomes a parasite to its living twin. The twin can survive with the non-viable twin inside them for years and years if it doesn't disrupt their vital organs or take up too much of their blood supply. There have been a few documentaries about fetus in fetu. Pretty creepy stuff.
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06-07-2009, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tri deezy
Potter's Syndrome and Anecephaly were two of the big ones I was thinking of when I wrote my post about non-viable babies. There's another I learned about in biology class in which the embryo fails to turn into a fetus and becomes like a type of parasitic tumor that can kill the mother. What about that? Some would even argue that it would be wrong to terminate that pregnancy.
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You're thinking of a molar pregnancy. These can actually be cancerous. This would be caught in early pregnancy, though, since it makes the mother really sick. Another common reason for first trimester abortions is ectopic pregnancies. These are "viable" pregnancies that are routinely terminated to save the life of the mother. Would anyone say that those pregnancies should be saved?
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06-07-2009, 06:18 PM
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Are ectopic considered viable? I've always understood them to be nonviable because the growing fetus will rupture the fallopian tube.
And while there is a small minority of pro-lifers who might argue that yes, the pregnancy should continue if the mother's life is at risk, the vast majority (including all that I know) would accept that as a legitimate reason for aborting before viability.
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06-07-2009, 06:34 PM
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Are ectopic considered viable? I've always understood them to be nonviable because the growing fetus will rupture the fallopian tube.
And while there is a small minority of pro-lifers who might argue that yes, the pregnancy should continue if the mother's life is at risk, the vast majority (including all that I know) would accept that as a legitimate reason for aborting before viability.
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The vast majority of ectopic pregnancies will not survive to term. However, nothing is actually wrong with the fetus itself that we know of. There have been many ectopics that have survived to term, some within the fallopian tubes, some in the abdominal cavity. Not all ectopics are in the fallopian tubes, though, most are.
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06-08-2009, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
Are ectopic considered viable? I've always understood them to be nonviable because the growing fetus will rupture the fallopian tube.
And while there is a small minority of pro-lifers who might argue that yes, the pregnancy should continue if the mother's life is at risk, the vast majority (including all that I know) would accept that as a legitimate reason for aborting before viability.
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So ... I feel like you're giving conflicting opinions here. Before, in your own words, you said you're either "pro-abortion" or "anti-abortion". Many people have disagreed with your terms, but that's not really the issue right now.
If this is really what you believe, how can you be ANTI-abortion, if you think it's OK to terminate a pregnancy at all ?
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