NY Mom kicks kids out of car and drives off.

[psychdesire]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Looking at her bio, I'd say she's probably under a ricockulous amount of stress right now. That doesn't excuse what she did, but it might explain.

I agree with this. Especially seeing that she had a lot of stressors during the time. Not that it gives her the right to do so, but her mental state may have been clouded.

Kaye Scholer? wow, that is a great company

[MysticCat]

Wasn't this an episode of Desperate Housewives a few years ago?

[christiangirl]

When my step team was driving back from a competition and the coach pulled over and put a girl out of the van. She was around 15 and was being a brat to the nth degree. The coach just drove around the block and came back and we all had a good laugh, but I'm sure I know what parents everywhere would say about putting a girl out on the street in an unfamiliar city at 10-something at night. I guess you can say I understand both sides. But that incident made me laugh and so does this one. :shrug:

[UGAalum94]

So you can't leave 10 and 12 your year old kids in White Plains alone for any length of time or it's child endangerment?

That seems weird to me. I know that it's kind of normal for parents to be paranoid about their own kids these days, but I don't think there's really the criminal data to back it up. And my mom would probably have let me be alone for some length of time at that age, like in a you can look around at stuff and we'll meet back here in 30 minutes kind of way. Granted, she wouldn't have fake abandoned me from the car, but the charges don't seem to be a result of psychological abuse from the threat, but instead seem to reflect the idea that leaving a kid in White Plains business district is in itself illegal.

Weird.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Or better yet, told thenm before they went out the door, "Act like you got some dayum sense and don't embrrass me."

My mom is a certified spankologist

Originally Posted by nikki1920

Kids don't become "totally out of control" over night. Put the fear of Mom in them when they are little and you will be ok in the end. Ask lilnikki: all Mommy has to do is drop her voice, and things get done.

DS: my mom is a certified spankologist as well. Hence, why I've never been to jail or been put out of a car. B/c M. Butler WOULD do that. And drive off.

Originally Posted by libramunoz

My mother was definetly a certified spankologist as well.
Honeychile, you are correct, the need for discipline began years ago. This mother should have KNOWN how to control her kids, but then that would have meant that she would have to pay attention to her children to begin with.

I cannot remember a spanking since I was about 2-3 years old, but THE LOOK was alive and well in our house. We were asked, "What would you do if you had a child who acted like you?" and I would think, "I'd spank them real good!" I think the furtherest my parents had to go by the time we were in middle school was a very stiff squeeze on the shoulder.

If parents would just do their jobs before the kids enter school, they wouldn't be leaving them on the side on the road. So many teachers complain that more of their day is spent discipling their students rather than teaching them to NOT ignore them. I'm not saying to beat the kids (there's a place on the human body for swatting), but for everybody's sake, they need to learn discipline.

nikki1920, sounds like you have it all together with lilnikki - good work!

[AGDee]

My kids are generally good kids. They were disciplined early on. Their teachers always talk about what nice kids they are. In middle school, they especially rave about my son being such a nice, polite boy as if those are a rare thing in middle school. They are good students, good kids. There are still times that they push MY buttons and I have to lay down the law. They're teenagers for crying out loud. They're siblings. They pick on each other and bicker. They bickered and picked at each other through my birthday dinner out with them. The same week, one of them texted me from their dad's house complaining about stuff the other one was doing. Then the other one texted me. I told them to tell their dad, since they were at his house. As far as I was concerned, this was his issue to deal with but it turned out he wasn't home. I called them, said to put me on speaker phone so they could both hear. I reamed them out for constantly picking on each other and told them to work it out because they were the only siblings they were ever going to have and I was sick of them acting like this. I really yelled, first time I had to in a long time. Even good kids have their moments of being total brats whose necks you want to wring.

It does seem ridiculous that it's child endangerment to leave two kids at ages 10 and 12 alone in a public place. At age 12, our kids all go to Cedar Point for an all day trip and are allowed to roam around on their own, checking in for lunch and a snack break occasionally. They're fine.

Yes, when she realized the two kids had separated, and the 10 year old was out there alone, she should have turned right around to get that one. But, it's not child endangerment, it's a lapse of judgment for a little bit. I think removing these kids from the home is an extreme measure.

There are a lot of situations where we, as parents, don't always make the best decision. We are human. There was an age with my son where I really struggled when we went places that didn't have "family" bathrooms. He was definitely too old to be going in the ladies room and I was really worried about sending him to a bathroom for men alone. When I had to go to the bathroom, I would worry while in there that he was standing outside the bathroom by himself. But, I made judgment calls, based on necessity. She made a poor judgment call this time, but she's hardly abusive or neglectful. Is it child endangerment when kids get dropped off at the movies? When they walk home from school? When they go to a park on their own? When they are outside riding their bikes? Seriously?

[PM_Mama00]

Has anyone asked the question of WHY the 12 year old left the 10 year old behind?

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Has anyone asked the question of WHY the 12 year old left the 10 year old behind?

Not really. They're kids, siblings, who had just been kicked out of the car. I'm sure neither was excited at all about spending time with the other.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Has anyone asked the question of WHY the 12 year old left the 10 year old behind?

Mom had them doing a team building activity...and they failed.