The Term African American

[LΩVE]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

What you don't understand, but we've said it...repeatedly, is that there is a sense of entitlement embedded in your posts. Even saying "THAT IS FINE" implies that you have a choice in the matter but are relinquishing it.



ORLY?!?!?! Perish the thought.

And no one is asking a white person to explain anything or asking whites how they should be labeled and categorized. Hmmm...ever wonder why that rarely happens? That was discussed pages ago, nevermind.




Don't be a smartass. You're the one who is seeking answers, not us. You're like the cocky researcher whose subjects are telling her to take a hike. But you won't take a hike.

That isn't entitlement, that's common sense. I already had posted a long while back questions. If no one wants to answer them that's their business. I'm not going to go delete them because some people post rude, condescending, and bitchy comments.

I'll just say this...if you READ MY POSTS and then care to respond, fine. In the mean time this is a response to a construct and not to an individual poster. It's jumping on the bandwagon to enjoy a good ole mudslinging. It is repeatedly ASSUMED that I am in some way coming to "all black people" demanding answers as to why "they" call "themselves" ______. I'm asking individual people what the identify with and why.

Don't be a douchebag and no one will be a smartass. You don't get to tell me I can't discuss whatever it is the thread is about. Well...you do...but I in return get to throw "take a hike" right back at you. Speaking of entitlement, what gives you the right to tell me what I cannot discuss? Talk about some entitlement...

PS-Personally I don't consider fellow posters to be "subjects". But whatever gets ya off.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

That isn't entitlement, that's common sense. I already had posted a long while back questions. If no one wants to answer them that's their business. I'm not going to go delete them because some people post rude, condescending, and bitchy comments.

You're not using common sense right now. No one's talking about deleting the questions that you posed.

[LΩVE]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You're not using common sense right now. No one's talking about deleting the questions that you posed.

Then what is the problem? Why the many attempts to tell me that (entitlement) I don't have the right to ask them instead of just NOT RESPONDING...if it's that big of a deal why not let it die instead of being a huge tool for funsies?

Maybe I just answered my own question that time.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

if it's that big of a deal why not let it die instead of...i'm an idiot....

So that you will know for your real life interactions that unrelenting probing is silly.

Your questions weren't ignored but you responded with "white isn't offensive to me" and here we are.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

It is repeatedly ASSUMED that I am in some way coming to "all black people" demanding answers as to why "they" call "themselves" ______. I'm asking individual people what the identify with and why.

Wow, you completely missed MY point if you think I assumed that.

Originally Posted by LΩVE

Don't be a douchebag and no one will be a smartass.

Hmmmm...my first post (the one that you tried to be a smartass for) was of a neutral tone because these discussions require a degree of objectivity.

You responded a certain way because you've become paranoid and impatient from explaining yourself to a number of posters. Don't attribute that externally. Attribute it internally and figure out why you're receiving the reception that you're receiving.

Originally Posted by LΩVE

PS-Personally I don't consider fellow posters to be "subjects". But whatever gets ya off.

And I don't consider you a researcher. But it's called an analogy.

[LΩVE]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Wow, you completely missed MY point if you think I assumed that.



Hmmmm...my first post (the one that you tried to be a smartass for) was of a neutral tone because these discussions require a degree of objectivity.

You responded a certain way because you've become paranoid and impatient from explaining yourself to a number of posters. Don't attribute that externally. Attribute it internally and figure out why you're receiving the reception that you're receiving.



And I don't consider you a researcher. But it's called an analogy.

Oh I don't think so. My point has not yet been considered nor have my posts been read. Enjoy the sensation.

It was not of a neutral tone. This is a circular argument. That entitlement theory swings and rounds about, eh? Continue the pointless baiting or "take a hike". Your move.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

It was not of a neutral tone.

Because the back and forth has made you paranoid.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

My point has not yet been considered nor have my posts been read.

Which of your points/posts have not received a suitable response?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

I am also not interested in changing anyone's opinion nor am I interested in someone attempting to change mine.

Then the point of the "discussion" you want to have would be . . . ?

[AKA_Monet]

LOVE--you sit here and stated the following:

Originally Posted by LΩVE

I know a guy who is actually African-American. As in he was BORN in AFRICA and is now an American citizen. He finds the phenomenon funny because as he points out...and he's right...people who have been here for generation upon generation are American, plain American. In fact, anyone born here is just American. Someone born a citizen of another country who emigrates to America is fdsfdsnjk-American.

First of all, you made an outright presumptuous (and contemptuous), sense of entitlement statement to EVERYONE on GC who CHOOSES to call themselves African-American. I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOUR FRIEND SAID--HE IS A LITTLE PRICK TO SAY THAT TO YOU! (If he truly said that BS). Then you are dumb enough to post some shit like that here... That is what all of us are gently trying to say to you and you are NOT interested in shutting the fuck up, reading a book to get the full story in your University library, and really determining why the idea of changing definitions of people is even occurring...

Let me outright judge you without me knowing you: The comments you just said to those of us who CHOOSE to call ourselves African-American, you are behaving like a white supremacist--because who the FUCK are you to tell us what we should be anyways???

Originally Posted by LΩVE

I can't see why "black" could be offensive...Almost no one is WHITE or BLACK but those are easy lables [sic] that everyone understand to mean someone is of European decent or African decent.

To me "African American" makes as much sense to me for kids of my generation who are in fact just American, as me saying "IrishScottishFrenchItlaianwhoknows American". I'm not. I'm American and I'm classified as "white". That's it.

Being CALLED Black is NOT the issue! Black is not a derogatory term--it is a non-descriptive term. Classifying those of us who have a highly active tyrosinase gene with accelerated granule secretory formations in epithelial cells and short stubby sebaceous cells causing high kinks--as ONLY American minimizes our ancestral, cultural and current experiences and importance of how our culture shapes OUR identity, value, moral and being. WHO THE HAYLE ARE YOU TO TELL US THIS???? And how we CHOOSE to pursue OUR happiness in this country???

Based on your comments and the definite finality of them, you are NOT interested discourse. So basically, we are all telling you LEAVE--I will be more than happy to use more colorful language if you don't get that!

Buh-bye!

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Being CALLED Black is NOT the issue! Black is not a derogatory term--it is a non-descriptive term. Classifying those of us who have a highly active tyrosinase gene with accelerated granule secretory formations in epithelial cells and short stubby sebaceous cells causing high kinks--as ONLY American minimizes our ancestral, cultural and current experiences and importance of how our culture shapes OUR identity, value, moral and being. WHO THE HAYLE ARE YOU TO TELL US THIS???? And how we CHOOSE to pursue OUR happiness in this country???

Since you missed the last response, LOVE, I just wanted to make sure you got this one.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Since you missed the last response, LOVE, I just wanted to make sure you got this one.

She isn't realizing that nothing is wrong with calling someone "White"--it just doesn't accurately describe the breadth and depth of someone and how they choose to define him/herself.

It's like saying what's the difference between "gays" and "lesbians"--aren't they all just "gay"? That's minimizing their cultural development of how GLTBQ CHOOSE to define themselves... It is overall wrong, IMHO.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

First of all, you made an outright presumptuous (and contemptuous), sense of entitlement statement to EVERYONE on GC who CHOOSES to call themselves African-American. I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOUR FRIEND SAID--HE IS A LITTLE PRICK TO SAY THAT TO YOU! (If he truly said that BS).

IF the "friend" even exists. It has been my experience in discussions of this type, that such examples are conveniently trotted out to justify their points, but in fact said persons don't actually exist.

But if he does exist, I'm pretty sure of why he would say such a thing...