oh DAYUM!!! Bush almost got clocked by a SHOE

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Hey watch it now...The thought police will be here soon to tell you not to say such filth flarin' filth about 'our' president!!!

Always fun talking politics with you DS. You say your peace and then get fired up and mock anyone who dares disagree with you.

It's a shame, because you're one of the smarter posters on here, and you make some great points in a lot of threads.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Always fun talking politics with you DS. You say your peace and then get fired up and mock anyone who dares disagree with you.

It's a shame, because you're one of the smarter posters on here, and you make some great points in a lot of threads.

believe me, I am not fired up.

I'm not even rattled.

Actually I am surprised that so many of you here are stunned that there are people who aren't all that pressed about what happened to Bush.

And me mocking PhiGam?

All in a day's work.

I think he loves the abuse, which is why he keeps trying his best to dish it out.

Just say a few sentences and he devolves instantly to name calling.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Actually I am surprised that so many of you here are stunned that there are people who aren't all that pressed about what happened to Bush.

I believe your perception may be off.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I believe your perception may be off.

AH well wouldn't be the first time... but if the shoe fits...heh!

But I guarantee you it's not off by much!

AKA Monet...did I tell u that you are my hero?

HA!HA!

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

believe me, I am not fired up.

I'm not even rattled.

Actually I am surprised that so many of you here are stunned that there are people who aren't all that pressed about what happened to Bush.

And me mocking PhiGam?

All in a day's work.

I think he loves the abuse, which is why he keeps trying his best to dish it out.

Just say a few sentences and he devolves instantly to name calling.

This may be your weirdest post yet.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

This may be your weirdest post yet.

You haven't learned yet have you? The smartest thing for you to do to keep from being in these 'wierd' debates with me may be for you to NOT respond to me, right? Try it one day.

Me? Some days I simply enjoy rattling your cage.

(Hint: Calling folks retarded or FUCKED UP as you put it because their emotions don't match yours or telling someone exactly how pissed off you are at thier opinions just makes it even easier and might be a sign that you have too much vested in a conversation over some shyte that really doesn't affect you and thus may be a sign for you to exit.)

Moving right along....the shoe thrower may ONLY get 2 years in jail...imagine that...the ULTIMATE insult gets nominal jail time...


BAGHDAD – The journalist who threw his shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush was handed over to the Iraqi military, an Iraqi official said, as hundreds took to the streets Tuesday for a second day demanding his release.

Muntadhar al-Zeidi was turned over by the prime minister's security guards to face further investigation by the military command in charge of enforcing security in Baghdad, the official told The Associated Press.

Al-Zeidi was initially taken into custody by Iraqi security and interrogated about whether anybody had paid him to throw his shoes at Bush during a news conference Sunday in Baghdad, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

He could face charges of insulting a foreign leader and the Iraqi prime minister, who was standing next to Bush. The offense carries a maximum penalty of two years in jail.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081216/..._mi_ea/ml_iraq

Next Pres that travels to the middle east...press conferences will be held with members of the news corp butt naked....

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Its like that old adage about how I can bitch and moan all I want about my family but don't you dare say something against them because they're MY family.

I meant to get back to you on this point yesterday.

While I agree with you in theory, I disagree with the principle in real life situations as sometimes (not all) it sets a dangerous precedent in turning a blind eye towards things. It's almost akin to hearing a mother scream 'NOT MY CHILD, HE IS AN INNOCENT BOY' after he has killed 10 people in cold blood because mama turned a blind eye to his illegal activites all these year as it was going on in plain sight.

Now...Bush may be the US representing us, he may be our leader...but when you are talking about family as you state in the adage, then, (at least what I would do at any rate) let's ask George... "What did you do to piss those people off that they are throwing shoes at you?" "Why do they hate you so much?"

I don't believe in letting family off the hook that much especially when you know and see that they are wrong.

Sometimes the best that you can do for fams is to let them hang for a while and hope they learn the lesson.

We plainly heard from George himself that initially he didn't think it was a big deal and that he was too ignorant to realize exactly what kind of insult was literally hurled at him.

Now hopefully having it explained to him he understands.

Now maybe after knowing that so many citizens disagree with this war and the waste of lives and money it has produced and the unrest that it has caused, and that MANY of them wants the US to leave them the hell alone, why some of us see that shoe as a wake up call.

And I agree with AKA Monet...why the hell was he there in the first place? Why was our president in the middle of a warzone (not literally before some of you take it there!) where someone could have just as easily have shot him as opposed to simply throwing a shoe in the first place?

If you purposefully put yourself in harm's way, then yes, something is bound to happen!

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

And I agree with AKA Monet...

See, that's where you fucked up.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

At least you recognize that you always have to have the last word. Even if it's wrong.

Nothing I haven't said before, some people just refuse to listen.

Originally Posted by Senusret I

See, that's where you fucked up.

How so? She asked a valid question.

One that NO ONE here has bothered to answer.

WHY WAS Bush in Iraq?

Gloating at his handiwork!

While you all are so busy being pissed off at me, look back in history?

Has any president EVER gone INTO (on many occasions) a warzone?

Has any of our presidents traveled to Vietnam while fighting was going on?

Did our presidents go to Germany while fighting was going on?

Hell did Bush SENIOR go to Iraq while in office?

If I am wrong then folks, by all means please correct me, but I do not recall ever off the top of my head any of our presidents traveling INTO an area in which we were actively engaged in a war except this one and someone wants to know why and you think it's a bad question?

Bruh, please.

Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat

The shoe-thrower was beaten in custody. Link is to BBC news.

Nice democracy we're building over there.

I am still waiting to see the memo that the Iraqi people sent that asked us to bring them a nice piping hot mug of democracy to them along with a 6 pack of religious and cultural tolerance...hehe. I won't hold my breath.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

WHY WAS Bush in Iraq?

Gloating at his handiwork!

While you all are so busy being pissed off at me, look back in history?

Whoa, DS, it's time to take a break. This part of your post has a definite Earpish quality to it. Take a breath and a step back from the keyboard until it passes...

[ufpika]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Nothing I haven't said before, some people just refuse to listen.



How so? She asked a valid question.

One that NO ONE here has bothered to answer.

WHY WAS Bush in Iraq?

Gloating at his handiwork!

While you all are so busy being pissed off at me, look back in history?

Has any president EVER gone INTO (on many occasions) a warzone?

Has any of our presidents traveled to Vietnam while fighting was going on?

Did our presidents go to Germany while fighting was going on?

Hell did Bush SENIOR go to Iraq while in office?

If I am wrong then folks, by all means please correct me, but I do not recall ever off the top of my head any of our presidents traveling INTO an area in which we were actively engaged in a war except this one and someone wants to know why and you think it's a bad question?

Bruh, please.



I am still waiting to see the memo that the Iraqi people sent that asked us to bring them a nice piping hot mug of democracy to them along with a 6 pack of religious and cultural tolerance...hehe. I won't hold my breath.

The difference between this and other wars, is that we were fighting against the country's government in every other war. Right now, we are fighting WITH the Iraqi government against insurgents in Iraq. Seriously, if you are going to get into a political arguement please know your facts.

[DrPhil]

Americans who celebrate Bush having shoes thrown at him are like kids on a playground. It's great to critize this country and our leaders but to laugh at others' disdain is extremely shortsighted. It isn't just a personal attack on Bush, it is an attack on a symbol of America.

It's an attack that Obama-oh-great-symbol-of-change isn't immune from if his policies don't bring about the joy and cheer that people assume that they will. Or if change doesn't come tomorrow like a lot of people are expecting from Obama. Will it be funny then?

Bush was in Iraq as a surprise-surprise final visit. That's the public explanation for it. Whatever the case, he's still OUR POTUS regardless of how some of you think about him and his presidency. Remember that presidents don't operate independently so to hate Bush you should also have a general dislike for bipartisan politics, power capitalism, and the many pieces to the puzzle that got us where we are now.

1. On another note, I'd love to play dodgeball with Bush. And have a few glasses of wine afterwards. He's quick on his feet and seems like he really can't wait to NOT be president soon. Even the coolest people can leave sucky legacies, for whatever reasons.

2. On another-another note, it is a shame that the reporter has allegedly been tortured in custody. That isn't democracy or justice. On one end, he should've known what he was potentially putting himself into when he decided to do what he did. I don't trust ANY government as far as I can throw it.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Ironic, since most people who think hes a terrible president feel the same way about his father.

Not me.

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Always fun talking politics with you DS. You say your peace and then get fired up and mock anyone who dares disagree with you.

It's a shame, because you're one of the smarter posters on here, and you make some great points in a lot of threads.

The problem is those great points are so often buried in so much muck, I've gotten so I usually just skim his posts, if that.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Not me.

The problem is those great points are so often buried in so much muck, I've gotten so I usually just skim his posts, if that.

I don't read his posts. I tried to skim the last page and my hair starting falling out. That's why I had to ask him about his agreement with AKA Monet.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You haven't learned yet have you? The smartest thing for you to do to keep from being in these 'wierd' debates with me may be for you to NOT respond to me, right? Try it one day.

At least you recognize that you always have to have the last word. Even if it's wrong.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You haven't learned yet have you? The smartest thing for you to do to keep from being in these 'wierd' debates with me may be for you to NOT respond to me, right? Try it one day.

Me? Some days I simply enjoy rattling your cage.

(Hint: Calling folks retarded or FUCKED UP as you put it because their emotions don't match yours or telling someone exactly how pissed off you are at thier opinions just makes it even easier and might be a sign that you have too much vested in a conversation over some shyte that really doesn't affect you and thus may be a sign for you to exit.)

You aren't rattling anything... I'm not sure why you would think that. Now you come off as condescending. None of this makes me "mad" or "rattles my cage," I just don't see where you're coming from with your posts. You never really explain your point, you just say some sort of catchphrase and then change the subject whenever somebody asks you a question.