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11-14-2008, 12:36 AM
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I will personally pay everyone one dollar to just not say her name again. Let's just let her fade back into the wilderness. Please. Pretty pretty please. Big old heaping lump of sugar on top.
Last time I even want to approach mentioning her -- I will look forward to the 2012 GOP primaries -- Pawlenty, Crist, Jindal, Barbour, they'll destroy her. I believe it will be enjoyable to watch.
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  @ the second part
Still    at the top. Nittany, she'll eventually fade away...unless she wants to be like Oprah for real and be "UNLEASHED!" Damn it, she might even make it to Oprah now that the election's over. *sigh*
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11-14-2008, 01:06 AM
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I'M IN!!!
But... People can vote in the US in a language other than English right now, or is that something being proposed? Bad business.... 
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In CA they can...the ballot comes in English and Spanish.
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11-14-2008, 06:38 AM
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In CA they can...the ballot comes in English and Spanish. 
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Nothin wrong with that... all citizens have the right to vote. Additionally, the USA has no official language.
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11-14-2008, 07:57 AM
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Palin says she'd be honored to help Obama
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Gov. Sarah Palin said Wednesday that she would be honored to help President-elect Barack Obama in his new administration, even if he did hang around with an "unrepentant domestic terrorist."
The Alaska governor said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer that she would be willing to help if Obama asked her for assistance on some of the issues she highlighted during this year's campaign, such as energy or services for special-needs children.
"It would be my honor to assist and support our new president and the new administration," said Palin, whom Sen. John McCain chose as his running mate in August.
"I speak for other Republicans and Republican governors, also," she said.
"They would be willing also to seize this opportunity that we have to progress this nation together, in a united front." Watch CNN's Wolf Blitzer interview Palin »
But asked moments later about some of the tough rhetoric she hurled from the stump, she said she was "still concerned" about Obama's ties to former Weather Underground member-turned-Chicago college professor William Ayers.
"If anybody still wants to talk about it, I will," she said. "Because this is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who had campaigned to blow up, to destroy our Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/12/palin/index.html
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I realize the thread went in a different direction and as usual, I'm late to the party, but if I were a Rebublican, I'd be pissed at the statement she made that I bolded. Exactly what gave her the authority to start speaking for other Republican leaders??? She's not the face of the Republican party... yet.
And I'm with nittany... I can't wait for 2012 and see Crist and Jindal, Barbour and Romney wipe the floor with she-who-will-not-be-named.
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11-14-2008, 12:05 PM
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I realize the thread went in a different direction and as usual, I'm late to the party, but if I were a Rebublican, I'd be pissed at the statement she made that I bolded. Exactly what gave her the authority to start speaking for other Republican leaders??? She's not the face of the Republican party... yet.
And I'm with nittany... I can't wait for 2012 and see Crist and Jindal, Barbour and Romney wipe the floor with she-who-will-not-be-named.
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Dang...lumping her in with Voldemort is kinda harsh huh?
heh!
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11-14-2008, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scbelle
I realize the thread went in a different direction and as usual, I'm late to the party, but if I were a Rebublican, I'd be pissed at the statement she made that I bolded. Exactly what gave her the authority to start speaking for other Republican leaders??? She's not the face of the Republican party... yet.
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The CNN article is missing a little bit of context - apparently, Palin missed a meeting of all of the Republican governors to appear on CNN (twice), then had an individual press conference scheduled for the next day. Instead, she had 12 or so other R govs at the press conference, and they took all of four questions (all directed at her) where she made comments just like that one. Someone got in her ear and told her to get on the train - not surprising, since she looks like a huge asshole missing an important party event to get interviewed by Larry freaking King.
That gives a LOT more context to the quote - she's at least making an attempt to jump in line, and the current party line is "we're on the boat and not thinking about 2012, we have a lot of problems before then, blah blah blah."
Not that the quote is a great one even then, but it's at least not as selfish or self-exalting as it sounds out of context.
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11-14-2008, 01:45 PM
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Dang...lumping her in with Voldemort is kinda harsh huh?
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i am mad i thought the same thing lol! we are too old to be making HP references! they do kinda resemble though...
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11-15-2008, 12:07 PM
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true, but if i were republican, and i watched her constantly go after him and degrade his character, it would make me wonder if you were lying before to us...because why would she really want to go help someone who "pals around with terrorists"?? dont get me wrong, i would say the same thing of Obama if he bad-mouthed McCain, and i held Hilary to the same standards when she was running her mouth about Obama...
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Apparently that could be a higher standard than Obama is holding Hillary to...if reports that he is considering her for Secretary of State are true.
I think it would be helpful to have everyone move on here and get down to the serious and substantive issues facing our President-elect. He needs the support and best wishes of all Americans and I choose to believe that Palin made her remarks in that spirit. Anything else is negative energy on my part.
Many things are said in a campaign, and things Gov. Palin said regarding William Ayers weren't without some basis in fact. I am of that era when Bill Ayers and his compatriots were blowing things up - uh, just buildings, eh? I don't think so. I wonder what Mr. Ayers would say if someone just took radical exception to his positions here and now and just "blew up a building" - his house, for example? Sort of like the residence of the judge?
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11-15-2008, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by scbelle
I realize the thread went in a different direction and as usual, I'm late to the party, but if I were a Rebublican, I'd be pissed at the statement she made that I bolded. Exactly what gave her the authority to start speaking for other Republican leaders??? She's not the face of the Republican party... yet.
And I'm with nittany... I can't wait for 2012 and see Crist and Jindal, Barbour and Romney wipe the floor with she-who-will-not-be-named.
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Er, ixnay on Charlie Crist and Romney.
Charlie will NOT be a contender. Romney won't either because he is a Mormon and that was already apparently too much for some ultra evangelicals and now with Prop 8 hanging on the Mormon Church in Cali, they won't forgive OR forget, so he's between the proverbial rock and hard place.
I am becoming more and more of a Jindal fan everyday.
But whether or not Gov. Palin sticks, no one will wipe the floor with her. I find it so amusing and amazing that she engenders so much vitriol from the left.
She who will not be named is apparently also she who must be destroyed. Why is that? Is it because she is also one who must not frighten the left anymore?
Just asking. She's not my number one, but it is an interesting phenomenon.
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11-15-2008, 01:26 PM
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Nothin wrong with that... all citizens have the right to vote. Additionally, the USA has no official language.
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While the US has no official language, something I understand as an educator and an intelligent citizen, it doesn't mean that the VAST majority of the population shouldn't speak and read English. If I moved to pretty much any other country where English wasn't the main language and became a citizen, there would be language requirements to do so. If I wanted to vote in those countries they wouldn't be providing me with a ballot in my own language. I'm a foreign language educator, and while I have no problem with people speaking and reading other languages English should be the national language. What is wrong with this? French is the official language of France, German is the official language of Germany, English and French are the official languages of Canada. What's the problem?
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that people should be able to read the ballot in English if they are to vote in the USA.
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11-15-2008, 02:05 PM
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Ok, "destroy" was a strong term. But she will not do well against seasoned GOP leaders who won't have any interest in continuing to make her appear competent on a national level. They will expose her every weakness and appeal to the broader swath of the party that want to move forward and regain traction as opposed to the evangelical core she will probably continue to appeal to. And I disagree, Romney isn't going anywhere, he'll be back in 2012.
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11-15-2008, 02:27 PM
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Er, ixnay on Charlie Crist and Romney.
Charlie will NOT be a contender. Romney won't either because he is a Mormon and that was already apparently too much for some ultra evangelicals and now with Prop 8 hanging on the Mormon Church in Cali, they won't forgive OR forget, so he's between the proverbial rock and hard place.
I am becoming more and more of a Jindal fan everyday.
But whether or not Gov. Palin sticks, no one will wipe the floor with her. I find it so amusing and amazing that she engenders so much vitriol from the left.
She who will not be named is apparently also she who must be destroyed. Why is that? Is it because she is also one who must not frighten the left anymore?
Just asking. She's not my number one, but it is an interesting phenomenon.
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She gets some vitrol from the right too - I'm no Democrat, but I would be beyond upset if she ended up as the presumptive nominee for 2012. There are a large number of us Conservatives out there who hope she fades into the background by that point.
And (admittedly as a Romney supporter) if people are going to withhold votes on Romney because he's a Mormon, my party is in more trouble than I thought.
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11-15-2008, 03:11 PM
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Er, ixnay on Charlie Crist and Romney.
Charlie will NOT be a contender. Romney won't either because he is a Mormon and that was already apparently too much for some ultra evangelicals and now with Prop 8 hanging on the Mormon Church in Cali, they won't forgive OR forget, so he's between the proverbial rock and hard place.
I am becoming more and more of a Jindal fan everyday.
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Why do you think Charlie Crist isn't a contender? I know that a lot of Floridians are not happy with his performance as governor, but it seems like outside of the state, people really like him.
I think Mitt Romney won't make a lot of moderates or liberals happy, because of the Mormon thing. It's just too weird for a lot of people.
I've always really liked Bobby Jindal--my college alumni association here in NYC is honoring him in the Spring, and apparently, he's really excited about the award. Always cooperative. Plus, he's what Louisiana really needed after decades of corrupt administration.
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11-16-2008, 01:35 AM
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She gets some vitrol from the right too - I'm no Democrat, but I would be beyond upset if she ended up as the presumptive nominee for 2012. There are a large number of us Conservatives out there who hope she fades into the background by that point.
And (admittedly as a Romney supporter) if people are going to withhold votes on Romney because he's a Mormon, my party is in more trouble than I thought.
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I voted for Mitt in the Florida primary, but let's both face it. OUR party is in trouble. The evangelicals have too much influence. I'm a hard core fiscal conservative and a social moderate and I feel lost in the crowd.
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11-16-2008, 01:36 AM
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Why do you think Charlie Crist isn't a contender? I know that a lot of Floridians are not happy with his performance as governor, but it seems like outside of the state, people really like him.
I think Mitt Romney won't make a lot of moderates or liberals happy, because of the Mormon thing. It's just too weird for a lot of people.
I've always really liked Bobby Jindal--my college alumni association here in NYC is honoring him in the Spring, and apparently, he's really excited about the award. Always cooperative. Plus, he's what Louisiana really needed after decades of corrupt administration.
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Charlie is, shall we say, a bit shallow.
Jindal has some star power. And some core principles.
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