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11-05-2008, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by epchick
Just an FYI...but this doesn't always happen. The electors of each state can decide to ignore the popular vote (of their state) and vote for whoever they want.
It happened in the 2000 presidential election. Al Gore won the popular vote, Bush won the electoral vote.
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Uh.... I have to correct you here. In 2000, Al Gore did indeed win the overall popular vote. But he just didn't win the right combination of states to capture the electoral vote. None of the electors changed their vote or voted for someone other than the person they were obligated to. You might argue that Florida SHOULD have sent Democrat electors to the electoral college, but they sent Republican ones for better or worse.
Bear in mind that technically we're not even voting for president but for electors who have pledged to vote for a specific person for president.
Every state has a winner-take-all system when it comes to electors, except for Maine and Alaska.
Electors are obligated to vote for the candidate that wins the majority in their state. An elector who does not vote for the candidate they are pledged to vote is termed a "faithless elector" and is relatively rare. We're talking maybe 1 elector per election and often none. Not anything that's thrown an election to a different candidate. Ever. In the entire history of the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector
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11-05-2008, 06:23 AM
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Wow. The was a pretty sweet win.  Now let's get to the good stuff and see what this man can really do!
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11-05-2008, 07:43 AM
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And in Michigan, both Medical Marijuana and Embryonic Stem Cell research proposals PASSED! Woooooooot! The ads against the stem cell research were brutal, showing half cow/half humans in one ad, embryo production companies in one and comparing to the Tuskegee Experiment in one! I'm so glad the majority of Michiganders didn't fall for that. There "2 goes 2 far" signs all over the place and hardly any "Yes on 2" signs. I truly didn't think it would pass. The Pro-Lifers were totally against it. But, it passed!
Yay for South Dakota!
Boo for California and Arkansas. I was ashamed in 2004 that Michigan voted that marriage was only between a man and woman. I've debated that one ad nauseum here...
No, this does not mean the end of the Republican Party any more than George Bush and a solid Republican Congress/Senate meant the end of the Democratic Party. But, it is OUR turn to celebrate! We get a shot at fixing things now, we can only hope that we're successful.
GOBAMA!
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11-05-2008, 08:07 AM
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11-05-2008, 09:05 AM
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Moe - Hilarious!
It's dorky, but I can't wait to watch The View today and watch Elizabeth sulk.
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11-05-2008, 09:22 AM
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Moe - Hilarious!
It's dorky, but I can't wait to watch The View today and watch Elizabeth sulk. |
I seriously can't stand her.
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11-05-2008, 10:18 AM
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Moe - Hilarious!
It's dorky, but I can't wait to watch The View today and watch Elizabeth sulk. |
i forgot i get to do that today too!!! she is going to argue but she needs to shut the heck up and deal with it...he is her president too!!
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11-05-2008, 10:23 AM
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yes!!!!
i am sick as a dog right now, but i am waiting with baited breath to see that bitter biddy.
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Moe - Hilarious!
It's dorky, but I can't wait to watch The View today and watch Elizabeth sulk. |
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11-05-2008, 10:31 AM
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i am sick as a dog right now, but i am waiting with baited breath to see that bitter biddy.
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the rest of the girls shouldnt even say anything....just sit quietly and smile at her...lol! i predict a lot of stuttering...
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11-05-2008, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by epchick
Just an FYI...but this doesn't always happen. The electors of each state can decide to ignore the popular vote (of their state) and vote for whoever they want.
It happened in the 2000 presidential election. Al Gore won the popular vote, Bush won the electoral vote.
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11-05-2008, 10:56 AM
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Yeah. See my post at the top of the page.
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11-05-2008, 11:25 AM
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I'm sort of upbeat about this whole thing. I think a defeat of this magnitude is going to help the Republican party to refocus a bit. It's my feeling that the leadership of our party got too entangled with special interests, which in turn, alienated the base.
The economy in trouble. While you were sleeping, oil jumped about $7.00/barrel. Now the Democrats have majorities in both houses as well as in the White House. If things don't turn around fast, I think the American people are impatient, and I think if the Republicans can refocus their message and find some new and appealing faces to champion their issues, we could be setting up for 1994 all over again.
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11-05-2008, 11:47 AM
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lets remember: we can't blame Obama for anything until AFTER JAN. 20th lol!
side note: i hit 1000 posts! wow!
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11-05-2008, 11:56 AM
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lets remember: we can't blame Obama for anything until AFTER JAN. 20th lol!
side note: i hit 1000 posts! wow!
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Movement in the stock market can be counted as occurring in anticipation of an Obama presidency.
At least as much as movement in the stock market or commodities markets can ever be credited to a President, I think it's fair to credit him with whatever happens there.
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11-05-2008, 11:59 AM
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true, things the next few weeks are going to be kind of...frenzied?? i cant think of a better way to put it lol!
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