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				McCain's Black Relatives
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
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"Two Families Named McCain: Candidate's Kin Share a History With Descendants of Slaves"
 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1224...googlenews_wsj 
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				Lillie McCain is watching the presidential campaign from a singular perspective. 
 
A 56-year-old psychology professor whose family spans five generations from the enslavement of her great-great-grandparents to her own generation's fight for civil rights, Ms. McCain appreciates the social changes that have opened the way for Sen. Barack Obama to be the first major-party black contender for the White House.
			
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 "Some of McCain's black relatives support Obama"
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				In the rural Teoc community of Carroll County, Miss., where the ancestors of Sen. John McCain owned enslaved Africans on a plantation, black, white and mixed-race family members unite every two years for their Coming Home Reunion, on the land where the plantation operated.
			
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				10-21-2008, 06:58 PM
			
			
			
		  
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			Seriously? Pretty sure by the time McCain could buy his own slaves, slavery was against the law. And how far down the line are these relatives? 
 
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			Perhaps, but he also denied his family's slave-owning past and then claimed to gloss over the section about the family slaves when he read a relative's memoir.  I completely understand why he would do that...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			John McCain's family own slaves.....I'm shocked.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Well this confirms it. 
 
This election has nothing to do with race. 
 
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				Seriously? Pretty sure by the time McCain could buy his own slaves, slavery was against the law. 
			
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 Are you suggesting that McCain was a child during the antebellum period?  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				John McCain's family own slaves.....I'm shocked.   
			
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			Has anyone checked whether or not Obama's family owned slaves?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Has anyone checked whether or not Obama's family owned slaves? 
			
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 Better question: Does anyone care?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Better question: Does anyone care? 
			
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 Apparently someone cares enough about this question to act like it's a big deal (and post it), so if this is such an important issue in judging candidates maybe they should.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Didn't most white families who lived in America own slaves at some point?  
 
What does someone's ancestors have to do with them now? 
 
And if we wanna go there, let's talk about Obama's mama and how his dad was an alcoholic drunk driver. Or why DID Obama change his name from Barry to Barack if he is not Muslim or ever was.... 
 
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				Are you suggesting that McCain was a child during the antebellum period?   
			
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				Better question: Does anyone care? 
			
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 Good question.  
 
Why does anyone care whether McCain's family had slaves prior to December 6th, 1865?  The answer as to him should be the same as it is for Obama.  
 
A more interesting question,  I think, and one which might be whether Obama's Kenyan ancestors were active in the slave trade.  Kenya was once a big slave exporting country.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Good question.   
 
Why does anyone care whether McCain's family had slaves prior to December 6th, 1865?  The answer as to him should be the same as it is for Obama.   
 
A more interesting question,  I think, and one which might be whether Obama's Kenyan ancestors were active in the slave trade.  Kenya was once a big slave exporting country. 
			
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 actually right about now...this whole thread is pointless.
 
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				 Or why DID Obama change his name from Barry to Barack if he is not Muslim or ever was.... 
			
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Same reason why James Earl Carter is Jimmy and Richard Cheyney is a Dick.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Thanks for the links the articles are pretty interesting. 
 
As a general matter, does it matter if a candidate's ancestors owned slaves?  I mean, for me, as a white male living in New England, it doesn't really matter much, but I'm not exactly qualified to speak for others. 
 
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