Is this ok?

[Titchou]

I have to respectfully disagree. We do not know this chapter nor it's history. It is entirely possible that they simply could not generate the return numbers to ensure quota. That is, say the PNMs could attend 2 prefs. They would need to have 2-1/2 quota attend their party to be sure they got quota. Anything less than that and it lessens exponentially. And PH should not keep women from pledging if they have a bid simply because one group cannot acheive quota unless it so low as to have it said that it was set so that group could "pledge quota." The other groups would still have taken way more women as there is no cap on QAs under RFM.

[Zillini]

Originally Posted by 33girl

You mean - when they set quota? i.e., they should set it before pref instead of after pref maybe?

I wasn't talking about when quota was set, rather what quota was set at. Further explanation below.

Originally Posted by Titchou

I have to respectfully disagree. We do not know this chapter nor it's history. It is entirely possible that they simply could not generate the return numbers to ensure quota. That is, say the PNMs could attend 2 prefs. They would need to have 2-1/2 quota attend their party to be sure they got quota. Anything less than that and it lessens exponentially. And PH should not keep women from pledging if they have a bid simply because one group cannot acheive quota unless it so low as to have it said that it was set so that group could "pledge quota." The other groups would still have taken way more women as there is no cap on QAs under RFM.

For the sake of this discussion let's put Chapter Total aside and COR'ing up to Total. I'm only talking about Quota. Let's say at State U there are 6 chapters. If quota is set at 25 all chapters achieve quota. However, all except 1 get 10 quota additions. Wouldn't it be more fair to set quota at 35 and let the 1 chapter try to snap bid up to quota? This way ABC at least has a chance to grow it's size to be comparable with the others. If they make quota they can't issue anymore bids.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Zillini

I wasn't talking about when quota was set, rather what quota was set at. Further explanation below.

For the sake of this discussion let's put Chapter Total aside and COR'ing up to Total. I'm only talking about Quota. Let's say at State U there are 6 chapters. If quota is set at 25 all chapters achieve quota. However, all except 1 get 10 quota additions. Wouldn't it be more fair to set quota at 35 and let the 1 chapter try to snap bid up to quota? This way ABC at least has a chance to grow it's size to be comparable with the others. If they make quota they can't issue anymore bids.

In this case scenario, yes, ABC has a little more chance to grow it's size, although there are no guarantees that they any of the women who dropped them earlier in recruitment will accept a snap bid anyway. You end up with more women who go without bids. The chapter has the advantage. You also have a lot of women who leave the process feeling very angry and upset with the Greek system as a whole.

The other way, more women get bids, so they aren't going around bad mouthing the Greek system on campus, but the one chapter doesn't get bigger. It's been a long time since I was directly involved with snap bidding, but I don't recall very many women taking up that option because there was a reason that the chapter doing the snapping was dropped from her schedule earlier on. I'd be REALLY curious to see numbers on how many snap bids are actually accepted and how many of those women get initiated. That would help shape my own opinion of which way is better.

Either way, it's very tough to be the chapter that is significantly smaller than the others and all of our groups have at least one of those somewhere in the country so I do think the policy makers are cognizant of that.