Rushing rules reg. females

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by jonnydrillbit

This is similar to the laws that they made for our fraternities (except its no girls unless theyre sweethearts-usually ends up being 1 or 2 girls).

We have about 14 NIC fraternities and none of them seem to have a problem with this, maybe its because rush events are usually bowling, HOOTERS, baseball games, poker, etc. events where women are not the center of attention anyway. There is usually a party after bids where girls can come but thats only after bids.
I'm looking for the section of the IFC laws that states this but cant find it right now.

I just want to point out that just because *your* campus IFC (the general your/you) may not allow women at rush events, doesn't mean that on other campuses, women can not attend. Each campus is different and there are no NIC rules that govern women at IFC rush events.

[Entrepreneur]

Originally Posted by TSteven

I just want to point out that just because *your* campus IFC (the general your/you) may not allow women at rush events, doesn't mean that on other campuses, women can not attend. Each campus is different and there are no NIC rules that govern women at IFC rush events.

Agreed. Every campus is slightly different. My daughter moved into her sorority house a week ago as they go through their month long process to do whatever it is they do to prep for rush. Until bid day, she said that Panhellenic rules prevent girls from any sorority appearing at any fraternity house for any reason.

Once sorority bid day ends, she'll probably drag a half dozen of her sorority sisters to camp out at her boyfriend's fraternity house and help them rush (their rush trails the sororities' rush by several weeks, which seems odd, but every campus is slightly different).

[gphiangel624]

Originally Posted by TSteven

I just want to point out that just because *your* campus IFC (the general your/you) may not allow women at rush events, doesn't mean that on other campuses, women can not attend. Each campus is different and there are no NIC rules that govern women at IFC rush events.

NIC doesn't have any rules for governing the presence of women at IFC chapter rush/recruitment events, but their "Basic 5" manual for IFC recruitment officers states that there should not be women at events as one of the extra guidelines for the Basic 5. So while they don't prohibit it, they ask chapters to consider why women at men's events are necessary.

I've always asked what the role of the women at the event is - if they are doing something that the men should be doing (i.e. serving snacks/drinks, talking to potential members, providing entertainment, selecting and/or voting on potential members), why aren't the male members of the organization doing it? I can understand having women present as "social icebreakers" but even that can be a questionable role.

And, let's face it, having women present can and probably will add to the liability for the fraternity. An example that potential male members may also do, but women add another risk of bringing alcohol into what should be dry recruitment.

[TSteven]

I have never heard of any woman selecting or voting on any potential fraternity member - ever! Input, sure. But never the selection.

[gphiangel624]

Originally Posted by TSteven

I have never heard of any woman selecting or voting on any potential fraternity member - ever! Input, sure. But never the selection.

I've seen it happen, it was directly admitted to me by a fraternity chapter when I was working at my last institution. They allowed the women who hung out regularly with the chapter to vote. Now, obviously, the response from headquarters was not supportive of the chapter's practice, but I've heard of it happening elsewhere.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by gphiangel624

I've seen it happen, it was directly admitted to me by a fraternity chapter when I was working at my last institution. They allowed the women who hung out regularly with the chapter to vote. Now, obviously, the response from headquarters was not supportive of the chapter's practice, but I've heard of it happening elsewhere.

Wow. Learn something new everyday.