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Old 08-11-2008, 04:53 PM
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But there's a difference between the national group's ideals as written in the history, constitution and bylaws, and the people running the group.

"George W is an a-hole and doesn't understand the Constitution, but I am still proud to be an American."

Like that. I don't think there have been many people who've renounced their citizenship because they didn't like Bush (Clinton, FDR, etc etc etc).
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:57 PM
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But there's a difference between the national group's ideals as written in the history, constitution and bylaws, and the people running the group.

"George W is an a-hole and doesn't understand the Constitution, but I am still proud to be an American."

Like that. I don't think there have been many people who've renounced their citizenship because they didn't like Bush (Clinton, FDR, etc etc etc).
I agree with this basic logic that also applies to GLOs.

Only short-sighted moronic idiots moved to Canada when Dubya was re-elected. There allegedly were a few.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:05 PM
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But there's a difference between the national group's ideals as written in the history, constitution and bylaws, and the people running the group.

"George W is an a-hole and doesn't understand the Constitution, but I am still proud to be an American."

Like that. I don't think there have been many people who've renounced their citizenship because they didn't like Bush (Clinton, FDR, etc etc etc).
Agreed ... but (referring to the OP situation) somewhere in my college career I choose to belong to a local chapter because of their ideals. (Although I am a proud American, citizenship of birth is not a choice and I could, although unlikely, choose to move to Canada if Obama is elected. ) Perhaps the chapter did not represent National ideals well during recruitment? I'm just saying that I can love being around people from the AB chapter of XYZ without having to associate any longer with XYZ or the ideals of that national organization. Life is too short to be associated with a group that makes you unhappy and frankly, why would XYZ want to keep me around if I were unhappy or not participating anymore?
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:10 PM
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A person joins a GLO for their Ideals.

They also first join a chapter for the members!


So, which is the most important reason?
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A person joins a GLO for their Ideals.

They also first join a chapter for the members!


So, which is the most important reason?
That depends if you're talking before or after Tom Earp was an Active.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:10 PM
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Perhaps the chapter did not represent National ideals well during recruitment? I'm just saying that I can love being around people from the AB chapter of XYZ without having to associate any longer with XYZ or the ideals of that national organization.
it's NOT the ideals that are faulty, it's the people running the show at HQ/on national council that are faulty.

I mean, (sorry to bring this up ladies) I doubt Z Phi B has anywhere in their ideals that it's a good idea to contest an election and put it out all over the internet.

And if it's a choice between putting up with some jackasses in office and keeping your charter, or surrendering it to "take a stand" and being homeless and chapterless, most college students will choose the latter.
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