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Originally Posted by MysticCat
But I think any "alternative" to hazing may be less than successful if it doesn't meet what I would call the primal need to prove one's self by ordeal -- the same primal urge that symbolically underlies many, many fraternal and masonic-type initiation rituals.
Just my $0.02.
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I understand what you're saying--and I probably don't get it because I am missing certain parts. But we're talking about joining a fraternity here, and what, in that, includes the need to prove your primal manhood? Where, in any fraternity's values, does it say that we value being primal? I see things about being a gentleman and respecting each other, but I don't recall anything about being Neanderthal-like.
I am being somewhat facetious but it's only to prove the point that sometimes the values we as members claim don't line up with the excuses to haze.
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