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07-27-2008, 02:49 PM
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SPOILERS!!
As of today, I am calling it...if you haven't seen it by now...TUFFF
The Dark Knight is gonna be talked about!!!
One last chance,......if you don't want to read anymore about it cuz you havent seen it....do not scroll down to find out a spoiler that I am posting!!!!
Don't peek!
Rachel gets blown up in a maginificent explosion and most of US are so dayumed happy!!!
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07-27-2008, 02:59 PM
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Rachel gets blown up in a maginificent explosion and most of US are so dayumed happy!!!
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Maggie Gyllenhal(sp) is funny looking and I didn't like how they played the character.
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07-27-2008, 03:08 PM
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We finally saw it yesterday morning. I hope to go see it again sometime next week. I'm just so thankful I didn't have to sit through Katie Holmes, however, after seeing the Rachel's storyline I almost wish she reprised the role.
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about Michael Caine and/or Morgan Freeman. I thought both gave outstanding performances.
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07-27-2008, 04:13 PM
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I'm surprised more people aren't talking about Michael Caine and/or Morgan Freeman. I thought both gave outstanding performances.
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They were great. They were much better than Christian Bale's rendition of Batman. However, I suspect that no one expected Caine and Freeman to not be great and/or no one thought their supporting roles left a lot of room for acting creativity.
None of the reviews I've read have given due credit to the senior actors on the roster. The critics and fans are basically too busy crooning over Heath Ledger and trying to find a reason to give Bale a head nod.
On that note:
The more I think about this movie, the more I didn't like Bale as Bruce Wayne or his raspy lisped Batman. I know that Ledger's death has made this movie more about Ledger's Joker than Batman. That could have to do with the fact that they've switched Batman's a few times in the series whereas The Joker has pretty consistently been Jack Nicholson. I haven't seen any advertisements that don't have Joker as the focal point. I wonder if any scenes were cut to highlight The Joker even more after Ledger's passing or if that's how the movie was always intended. This movie should be called "The Joker." That could be my anti-Bale and pro-Ledger bias, though.
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07-27-2008, 09:02 PM
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I wonder if any scenes were cut to highlight The Joker even more after Ledger's passing or if that's how the movie was always intended.
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I totally agree with you Chaos! I know people will disagree with me, but I don't think that Ledger's Joker lived up to the hype. It wasn't "lets go see Batman," it was "let's see Ledger play The Joker." And although he was good(even great), I didn't think he was "OMG" spectacular.
If Ledger hadn't passed away, do you think there would be so much emphasis on The Joker?
and since we are doing spoilers now, does anyone know if Two-Face is coming back? Yes, he was knocked off that building & it seemed like he was dead....but you know these movies. Just when you think the person is dead, the next 'episode' comes out and VIOLA, the person shows up alive. I can totally see Two-Face coming back.
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07-27-2008, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by epchick
and since we are doing spoilers now, does anyone know if Two-Face is coming back? Yes, he was knocked off that building & it seemed like he was dead....but you know these movies. Just when you think the person is dead, the next 'episode' comes out and VIOLA, the person shows up alive. I can totally see Two-Face coming back.
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I've read that Two-Face is supposed to be the main villain in the next movie, but I think that could easily be incorrect or change.
I've also read that Catwoman is to have a role in the next movie. Again, could be pure rumor.
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07-27-2008, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin
I've read that Two-Face is supposed to be the main villain in the next movie, but I think that could easily be incorrect or change.
I've also read that Catwoman is to have a role in the next movie. Again, could be pure rumor.
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if you could, please locate where you read the above when you can. While we did "see" gordon "die", we also saw the reason and his "rebirth". we saw two face die as well as the memorial services for him. while the continuation of the character would have been rather nice, seems as if for some reason unknown to us the writers desired to end that thread. i am not aware of a second two-face.
catwoman could make sense and would be rather interesting as part of plot in which batman is the hunted rather than the hunter.
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07-27-2008, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by epchick
and since we are doing spoilers now, does anyone know if Two-Face is coming back? Yes, he was knocked off that building & it seemed like he was dead....but you know these movies. Just when you think the person is dead, the next 'episode' comes out and VIOLA, the person shows up alive. I can totally see Two-Face coming back.
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He needs to come back!
Plus, he was on some superhuman stuff to be able to walk about without half of his face like that. Certainly a fall off a building won't kill him!!!!
I predict that Scarecrow will get out of jail, TwoFace will come back, and they will get The Joker out of his holding cell. Then they'll hook up with some other bad guys and whoop that raspy lisp out of Bale's Batman.
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07-27-2008, 09:51 PM
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He needs to come back!
I predict that Scarecrow will get out of jail, TwoFace will come back, and they will get The Joker out of his holding cell. Then they'll hook up with some other bad guys and whoop that raspy lisp out of Bale's Batman.
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I agree (about Two-Face coming back). If you think The Joker should come back in the next movie...who do you think could play him?
I see Two-Face and the Riddler (i still like Jim Carey! I think he totally pull off a real sinister Riddler) teaming up.
I vote for Batgirl instead of Catwoman!! lol
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07-27-2008, 10:43 PM
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I totally agree with you Chaos! I know people will disagree with me, but I don't think that Ledger's Joker lived up to the hype. It wasn't "lets go see Batman," it was "let's see Ledger play The Joker." And although he was good(even great), I didn't think he was "OMG" spectacular.
If Ledger hadn't passed away, do you think there would be so much emphasis on The Joker?
and since we are doing spoilers now, does anyone know if Two-Face is coming back? Yes, he was knocked off that building & it seemed like he was dead....but you know these movies. Just when you think the person is dead, the next 'episode' comes out and VIOLA, the person shows up alive. I can totally see Two-Face coming back.
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no...no telling...and they really don't say he is 'dead'
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07-28-2008, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by epchick
and since we are doing spoilers now, does anyone know if Two-Face is coming back? Yes, he was knocked off that building & it seemed like he was dead....but you know these movies. Just when you think the person is dead, the next 'episode' comes out and VIOLA, the person shows up alive. I can totally see Two-Face coming back.
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unlike smallville, this film series seems to be following the original canon rather closely. i just do not see the writers hitting the viola reset button. for reasons known currently only to them, they seem to have desired to end that thread. while there was a reason shown to cover up gordon's life, i just to know see any reason that a viewer of the film should have any belief that two face is still above the ground. and i am still wondering just why tiny lester had that much screen time at end.
added thought: as a paying viewer, i would feel used if in two years the next movie had that dent/two face was alive but it was covered up so the public would not learn the truth behind the da. and then of course the truth comes out anyway.
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07-28-2008, 08:49 AM
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Riddler is too campy of a character, either you make him too much like the Joker or he's too silly.
And they had Barbara Gordon right there on the screen and you didn't see her face! Batgirl for the win.
Also, Two-Face is dead. Not coming back.
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