Question About Quotas

[Just interested]

Alright, I am going to through this out for discussion. What if you know someone is going elsewhere and absolutely has no interest in your group.and you don't want your girls to waste their time? Do you A. write the rec and say nothing B write the rec but tell them C No Rec them to force a cut

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Just interested

Alright, I am going to through this out for discussion. What if you know someone is going elsewhere and absolutely has no interest in your group.and you don't want your girls to waste their time? Do you A. write the rec and say nothing B write the rec but tell them C No Rec them to force a cut

What you have described is pretty close to the circumstance for which I just didn't write the rec at all. I figured it would sort itself out.

Now, if I actually liked the girl, but knew she was more interested in a different chapter, I might write a positive rec but tell them the circumstances of her connection to XYZ.

Some of what I want for PNMs that I know and like is simply for them to form a positive impression of my GLO, even if they end up with bids elsewhere. Not so much so they're all "zowza, UGAalum is even more awesome than I thought," but because it's a PR thing for the chapter to be well thought of. They have a better shot at being well thought of if they rush well. To rush well, they need info about the PNMs. So, I'd write a rec that let them rush well.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Just interested

Alright, I am going to through this out for discussion. What if you know someone is going elsewhere and absolutely has no interest in your group.and you don't want your girls to waste their time? Do you A. write the rec and say nothing B write the rec but tell them C No Rec them to force a cut

I think it would be a really rare circumstance for those conditions to be absolutely true. While I know a lot of women start our recruitment saying "I only want to be an XYZ", the reality, after they are cut from XYZ might be different. We see that all the time in recruitment threads. Women do sometimes change their minds during recruitment. I think, if she was someone I would want to be in my organization, I would write a positive rec.

[pinkyphimu]

Originally Posted by Just interested

Alright, I am going to through this out for discussion. What if you know someone is going elsewhere and absolutely has no interest in your group.and you don't want your girls to waste their time? Do you A. write the rec and say nothing B write the rec but tell them C No Rec them to force a cut

But we say all the time to keep your options open going into recruitment. Maybe XYZ drops her, too. What if she gets to school and decides that she hates every girl in XYZ and would rather slit her wrists than join? Then what? I would definately never write that she is more interested in another chapter. Keep it positive and about the PNM.

[UGAalum94]

My guess is that Just Interested has in mind the jerk girl who has to tell everyone how she only has eyes for certain groups and that crosses the line into rudeness in her attitude toward others. She's the PNM who is likely to ask to use the restroom during your group's party and stay gone the whole time to telegraph her disinterest (despite having opportunities to use the restroom between events).

In that case, you might be think, no rec her so she's gone early and let them focus on girls who would be worth rushing.

Personally, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't want to deprive the chapter of deciding to.

ETA: when I said I might mention her interest in my rec for a girl I did like, it would just be so the chapter would have a realistic understanding, not so they'd cut her. Maybe like a comment, "Suzy PNM has several friends in XYZ but I hope you all make her feel equally at home." If the chapter has to release someone, I'd rather they keep girls with genuinely open minds or at least girls who hadn't already revealed their biases. If release figures turn it into a guessing game, I'd want the chapter to have the most information.

But honestly, even in cases where I suspected a lack of genuine interest, I never said anything in the rec. I have the same attitude of wait and see how recruitment actually goes. If she's likely to be a great member, that's what is really need to know.

[Zillini]

Originally Posted by Just interested

Alright, I am going to through this out for discussion. What if you know someone is going elsewhere and absolutely has no interest in your group.and you don't want your girls to waste their time? Do you A. write the rec and say nothing B write the rec but tell them C No Rec them to force a cut

Assuming: 1) The PNM has asked you for a rec even though she's not interested in your GLO, though I wonder why she'd even find a rec for a chapter she knows she doesn't want. 2) There is nothing actually wrong or bad about the PNM other than she's not interested.

No Recs should be used for strong, legit, verifiable concerns IMO. If it were me, I'd write a really basic Rec without any extra info. This way you can honestly tell the PNM you have in fact written one for her.

Then I'd call/email an Advisor and let her know that this girl isn't interested at all, but of course hope she'll change her mind during the Recruitment process. Then it's up to the Advisor on how to pursue it. If the actives love her, they should be allowed to invite the girl back and hopefully convince her it's a great place to be. If the PNM is "on the bubble" when it comes to invites/cuts, this tidbit of info might help them make a decision.