Ole Miss drops GPA exceptions for rush

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

and mysticcat, yes that does fit the definition of discrimination: for example, let's say the standard is extra curricular involvement. Someone could have an outstanding "rush resume" (i would black ball someone for having one) but not be in any other clubs. Well, if that is your standard, you through everything else (individual merit) out of the window.

Billy, I don't think that's discrimination, at least not in the sense the word seems to be being used here (discrimimation against people with learning disabilities, which is not at all necessarily the same group as people with GPA under 2.5).

Discrimination is when you judge a person based on a category he "belongs" to -- race, skin color, religion, hair color. too short, too heavy, whatever -- rather than on individual merit. In the example you gave, you are judging the person on merit; his lack of involvement in other extra-curricular activities suggests to you that he will not be an involved member of your fraternity or will not be a good "public face" for your fraternity.

Now, if you mean "discriminating" as in discriminating taste or judgment, I'll agree with you. I agree that GLOs do, and should do, that all the time. But that's just not the same as discriminating against someone, which is what I understood you to be talking about.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Billy, I don't think that's discrimination, at least not in the sense the word seems to be being used here (discrimimation against people with learning disabilities, which is not at all necessarily the same group as people with GPA under 2.5).

Discrimination is when you judge a person based on a category he "belongs" to -- race, skin color, religion, hair color. too short, too heavy, whatever -- rather than on individual merit. In the example you gave, you are judging the person on merit; his lack of involvement in other extra-curricular activities suggests to you that he will not be an involved member of your fraternity or will not be a good "public face" for your fraternity.

Now, if you mean "discriminating" as in discriminating taste or judgment, I'll agree with you. I agree that GLOs do, and should do, that all the time. But that's just not the same as discriminating against someone, which is what I understood you to be talking about.

Yeah, words have different meanings and shades of meanings, and i think there was some mis-communication...

my problem isn't so much that discrimination is there, it's when it's there and people say it's not...and if you've never been on the bad end of it, it can't really be explained how it feels

And yeah, i said that no one is coming right out and saying "no special needs girls" but that will probably be the end effect, and that, to me, is discrimination

ETA: also, there should be standards, but to not take into account other mittigating circumstances is kind of short sighted, in my opinion