Ole Miss drops GPA exceptions for rush

[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by brenda178

I think it's a great idea to cut it off at 2.5. I mean, were that many chapters taking girls below a 2.5 before? I'm guessing someone with a GPA below 2.5 was considered a grade risk. The chapter I was in had a cap on how many of those we could take. Don't know how it worked at other houses.

There was a handful (and I mean a handful) that would be okay because they were big time legacies, etc, etc...every house has different rules on their polices with grades, legacies, etc. This will only help all of the chapters with their overall GPAs and their academic goals. I bet this policy will only affect a few PNMs. I don't think there have been that many PNMs in the past with below a 2.5 GPA. I don't think this was something that the Panhellenic at Ole Miss just decided upon all of a sudden. I am sure they looked at other SEC schools' policies, GPAs for the sororities on campus, past GPAs, etc. They tend to take their new rules and policies pretty seriously.

[UGAalum94]

And it's possible that a high percentage of the people they were making exceptions for weren't ending up with bids, so they could see they were setting them up for bad results maybe.

[RU OX Alum]

basically it's legal discrimination

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

basically it's legal discrimination

Are you speaking out of your ass again?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

basically it's legal discrimination

No...it's called standards!

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

No...it's called standards!

Depeding on the circumstances, it can be considered as legal discrimination. But, I do agree that 2.5 GPA minimum is reasonable...even 2.75.

Originally Posted by Dionysus

Depeding on the circumstances, it can be considered as legal discrimination. But, I do agree that 2.5 GPA minimum is reasonable...even 2.75.

Just how exactly would that be discrimination?

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by OTW

Just how exactly would that be discrimination?

Professional and honorary GLOs would be off the hook, since their main focus is academic achievement. There are probably exceptions.

But social and service GLOs are the ones who should be careful how they handle certain students, because they are mainly non-academic orgs turning down students for academic reasons. Learning disorders, ADD, Asperger's or whatever are defined as disabilities. Depending on the school, students with disabilites can have a variety of accomodations, including GPA or grade exceptions. Most GLOs have anti-discrimination policies. Disibilities can be included, it depends on the organization (which I believe is the majority). If a GLO denies a disabled student's rights (granted by the disability office), that could get them in trouble. They won't get thrown in jail of course, but it could get them a civil suit.

Again it really depends...the specific disability, how the school accomodates them, if the student even notified his/her school about the disability, specific school and student org policies, greek life policies, GLO policies, and how the student is treated.

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

No...it's called standards!

LOVE this response!

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

No...it's called standards!

basically it's a way for them to say "something is wrong with you, so we don't want you in" that's what discrimination is.

But none of the sororities wants to come out and say "we don't want anyone with learning disableties to join" so they made an NPC rule basically saying the same thing

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

If a GLO denies a disabled student's rights (granted by the disability office), that could get them in trouble. They won't get thrown in jail of course, but it could get them a civil suit.

I don't see any such suit being successful.

In any event, as you've described it, it's not discrimination based on disability. No organization would be saying "we're not taking her because she's got this disability." They're not taking her because she doesn't meet academic qualifications. As others have noted, if there really is a disability requiring accommodation, then that should already have been taken into account by the school.

Not all standards = discrimination.

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

basically it's a way for them to say "something is wrong with you, so we don't want you in" that's what discrimination is.

No, that is not what discrimination is. Discrimination is "treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit." (Thanks, dictionary.com.)

A GPA is without question individual merit and has nothing to do with "the group, class, or category to which that person . . . belongs."

I'm sorry, but I think it's just plain silly to suggest that having a GPA requirement is merely to keep people with learning disabilities out of sororities. That doesn't even pass the straight face test.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I don't see any such suit being successful.

I
Not all standards = discrimination.

No, that is not what discrimination is. Discrimination is "treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit." (Thanks, dictionary.com.)

that is exactly what is going on

once again, you have your head so far up your own ass you can't see the point

[sigmadiva]

I'm sorry for butting in again, but when did learning disabilities automatically = dumb? I think some of you are assuming that. And, I don't think that is the case at all, that LD = dumb. Sure, some students may have to work harder because of their LD, but that does not make them dumb.

And, I don't see where this is discrimination. It is a standard. The sororities know how demanding being an active can be, whether you are talking about NPC, NPHC, MCGLO - greek life demands your time. If the student can not handle the demands of school and greek life, then that student needs to focus on school.

Besides, from what I've learned on these boards, it seems that girls who want to go to Ole Miss know if they want to be in a sorority or not, so then they should know that they need to have a high GPA to particiapte in recruitment.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I'm sorry for butting in again, but when did learning disabilities automatically = dumb? I think some of you are assuming that. And, I don't think that is the case at all, that LD = dumb. Sure, some students may have to work harder because of their LD, but that does not make them dumb.

I don't think anyone has assumed that people with learning disabilities are dumb. I certainly don't think so at all.

I do think that some have assumed that sorority members at Ole Miss must think that women with learning disabilities are dumb or otherwise undesirable. A baseless assumption, IMO.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

basically it's a way for them to say "something is wrong with you, so we don't want you in" that's what discrimination is.

But none of the sororities wants to come out and say "we don't want anyone with learning disableties to join" so they made an NPC rule basically saying the same thing

Maybe you're just playing devil's advocate, but don't get started with discrimination in the NPC...I think men's fraternities have a lot more discrimination to hide than we do! Making choices always means that someone is the loser. Everyone would have to be able to do everything they ever wanted without ever being told they aren't qualified if we want to completely get rid of this "discrimination" you speak of...unfortunately, that's completely not feasible.