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06-18-2008, 08:27 AM
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The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.
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06-18-2008, 08:41 AM
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The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.
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Why is that?
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06-18-2008, 07:31 PM
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Why is that?
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Because the crown has a deep and lasting meaning for ZTAs and handsigns are not part of our heritage. I know many alumnae that view it as disrespectful. Our magazine, Themis, will no longer print pictures of members gesturing that way, either.
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06-18-2008, 09:02 PM
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Because the crown has a deep and lasting meaning for ZTAs and handsigns are not part of our heritage. I know many alumnae that view it as disrespectful. Our magazine, Themis, will no longer print pictures of members gesturing that way, either.
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Thank you for your answer. I hadn't considered the particular symbol at all. I was thinking in terms of letters or other images that most of us tend to reproduce kind of casually in other areas, but we should probably all be more careful generally.
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06-19-2008, 12:20 PM
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Because the crown has a deep and lasting meaning for ZTAs and handsigns are not part of our heritage. I know many alumnae that view it as disrespectful. Our magazine, Themis, will no longer print pictures of members gesturing that way, either.
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I don't believe our magazine, The Crescent, allows for pictures showing hand signs either.
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06-19-2008, 12:49 PM
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I have seen some GFB chapters make a cresent moon by curving their hands |
I think SmartBlondeGPhB was referring to the OP not being in a sorority but being presumptuous enough to "start contemplating what her new sororities symbol would be, with the always adorable hand gesture."
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06-19-2008, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by icelandelf
I think SmartBlondeGPhB was referring to the OP not being in a sorority but being presumptuous enough to "start contemplating what her new sororities symbol would be, with the always adorable hand gesture."
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No, I was actually saying we don't have one because we don't have one (regardless of whether someone "sees" it around).
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07-17-2008, 03:41 PM
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No, I was actually saying we don't have one because we don't have one (regardless of whether someone "sees" it around).
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I have seen one that is supposed to be a Gamma and a Phi - hope it doesn't catch on. I think it looks silly. 
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06-18-2008, 09:51 AM
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The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.
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That isn't the case on my campus certainly.
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06-18-2008, 10:32 AM
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The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.
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We dont' have a ZTA on our campus, what does it look like?
We have a phoenix that we do sometimes for pictures.
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06-18-2008, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by WinniBug
We dont' have a ZTA on our campus, what does it look like?
We have a phoenix that we do sometimes for pictures.
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Make an "ok" sign with each hand. Now interlock the two loops that your thumbs and index fingers make. Touch the tips of your middle fingers above the loops, and spread out the rest of your fingers. Should like kind of like a tiara.
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06-18-2008, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel
Make an "ok" sign with each hand. Now interlock the two loops that your thumbs and index fingers make. Touch the tips of your middle fingers above the loops, and spread out the rest of your fingers. Should like kind of like a tiara.
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That makes more sense than what I was imagining. I was thinking maybe they just hold up one hand and spread the fingers/thumb out to make a 5-pointed crown. 
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06-18-2008, 04:01 PM
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The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.
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I wouldn't be surprised if other NPC I/HQs felt the same way.
If my Founders didn't do a handsign, I don't want it.
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06-18-2008, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OTW
I wouldn't be surprised if other NPC I/HQs felt the same way.
If my Founders didn't do a handsign, I don't want it.
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Ours feels the same way. In our photo submission guidelines for the Triangle, several "handsigns" are listed as what NOT to do in your photo if you want it to get printed.
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06-18-2008, 04:12 PM
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It just surprises me that it's something that anyone would take a stand on. It seems like something that would be around a while and then kind of die out on its own.
I'm not as strict as OTW about only using stuff our founders did, I guess, although I would think it was weird if we adopted an official hand sign.
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