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Old 06-01-2008, 08:08 PM
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For me it was an innate 'decision' - I just always liked boys.

Let me see if I can explain - the concept stems from the fact that God would not create a sinner on purpose, one from birth. The thought is that we are all born being good and righteous in the eyes of God, free from sin. During life, God gives us the chance to decide how we want to live. Whether we want to be good or bad, right or wrong. Since for some, homosexuality is a sin, then people can not be born gay. It is something they decided to do during their lives.
Unbelievable.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:15 PM
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Unbelievable.
Not really.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:42 PM
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Not really.
Really.

That's one of the most convoluted arguments I've ever heard.

For instance, some religions believe in the concept of original sin, meaning, as I understand it, that everyone is born a sinner -- not saintlike. Where does that leave them in this decision making process. Are they more likely to be gay because they're already sinners? Does it make the "choice" harder? Easier?

It seems to me that the problem in arguing anything on the basis of religious beliefs is that religions themselves are inconsistant -- not only between themselves and other religions, but often within their denominations.

That is to say nothing of individual beliefs. Not everyone takes everything their religion says as gospel (to coin a phrase -- pun intended).

So, who decides whether my religion is wrong if it doesn't agree with yours?

I'm pretty well convinced that there is no decision in whether someone is gay or not. If you want to convince me I'm wrong, quoting scriptures isn't the way to do it.

As someone noted above, the Bible was not written by God, but is a mortal intrepetation. Until God himself (or herself) tells me something in person, I'll reserve the right to be skeptical on some things.

ETA that I was writing while AGDee was posting above.
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