Why do LGLO/MCGLOs follow NPHC practices? - Page 13

MsDGP007 · #**181** 05-27-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I wasn't specifically looking for anything; just getting some others' perspectives.

Cool. {sigh} Sorry for hijacking this thread with a really (overall) pointless back-and-forth thing. Hopefully you were still able to get what you were looking for.

MsDGP007 · #**182** 05-27-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

ORLY?

Yes; "threads" is plural; this is one thread.

knight_shadow · #**183** 05-27-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

This was kinda a spin-off thread, anyway. I forgot from where.

From that "Why so many Greek orgs?" thread.

DSTCHAOS · #**184** 05-27-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MsDGP007

Yes; "threads" is plural; this is one thread.

Eh...in a nice way...shut up.

preciousjeni · #**185** 05-27-2008, 03:09 PM

LOL!

PANTHERTEKE · #**186** 05-27-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MsDGP007

Perhaps from the outside looking in...it seems that LGLOs & MCGLOs copy a lot from NPHC orgs; and maybe some do more than others (I can only speak for my own org so...). However by the definition of what we are (Greek Lettered Secrets Societies), we all will have similarities. In fact my sorority has characteristics in common with NPHC groups, NPC groups, honorary and even community-based sororities. Our founders were not "rejected" from NPHC groups...but seriously just wanted (so created) something different.

Again there is more than meets the eye. I went to a step-show this past spring which was hosted by an MCGLO - Alpha Omega Omega at West Virginia University. There were NPHC and LGLO orgs who participated and attended. At the after party/celebration, there was a lot of camaraderie and support. No I haven't been to so many schools...but I'm sure elsewhere, NPHC orgs show their love and support to MCGLOs and LGLOs...and it's not one big "hate fest" going on.

Also IFC groups I know for sure have line names (I have Lambda Chi Alphas, AEPis, and Sigma Chis as friends)...and get jerseys or shirts with those names on them. NPC groups have handsigns (although I think some are unofficial...but they still have them). My sorority also calls the steps in the recruitment process rush, bid, pledge, initiation, induction (along the lines of NPC) and we do not have a probate. On the individual chapter level our sisters can step...stroll...whatever. But our National Headquarters does not organize a "national" or even "regional" step team.

I understand it is pretty easy to generalize and put up comparisons; but we are new groups (most of us are less than 25 years old) and we pretty much deserve the opportunity to do our own thing without the NPC/IFC/NPHC being held up to us as measuring sticks.

I just wanted to add my 2 cents....

- YES, people WILL compare your newer orgs with the older ones, especially when most, if not all, your traditions are "borrowed" from the NPHC.

- And no, the IFC doesn't have "line names." They're called nicknames or pledge names, depending on what region you're from. And they have been around for a while now, not the past few years or the past decade.

- How exactly are you all doing "your own thing" if, as far as customs and traditions go, you're not bringing anything new to the table?

preciousjeni · #**187** 05-27-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

- How exactly are you all doing "your own thing" if, as far as customs and traditions go, you're not bringing anything new to the table?

Are you asking MsDGP007 or was that a general MCGLO "you"?

knight_shadow · #**188** 05-27-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

- And no, the IFC doesn't have "line names." They're called nicknames or pledge names, depending on what region you're from. And they have been around for a while now, not the past few years or the past decade.

I've heard some members of NIC/IFC organizations refer to them as line names. This is probably a local/regional thing (as discussed previously) and I'm sure that's what she meant.

Ch2tf · #**189** 05-27-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

I just wanted to add my 2 cents....

- YES, people WILL compare your newer orgs with the older ones, especially when most, if not all, your traditions are "borrowed" from the NPHC.

- And no, the IFC doesn't have "line names." They're called nicknames or pledge names, depending on what region you're from. And they have been around for a while now, not the past few years or the past decade.

- How exactly are you all doing "your own thing" if, as far as customs and traditions go, you're not bringing anything new to the table?

I think you should tread a tad bit more lightly.
1) It has been evidenced in previous threads that your general MCGLO and LGLO knowledge are limited to your campus (which btw based on what you have posted previously does not reflect said organizations nationally)

2) to equate the traditions that you see (or choose to see) as being the only traditions that said organizations have is a very limited scope. I suggest you take the time to learn more about non-NIC organizations before you start making blanket statements like those above.

33girl · #**190** 05-27-2008, 05:19 PM

He is right about the fact that NIC groups and NPC groups have pledge class names and nicknames. They are not "line names" as those groups don't have "lines."

knight_shadow · #**191** 05-27-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

He is right about the fact that NIC groups and NPC groups have pledge class names and nicknames. They are not "line names" as those groups don't have "lines."

They may not have lines, but some people refer to them as such.

Senusret I · #**192** 05-27-2008, 05:23 PM

^^^Ehhhh....... if you have line-ups, you have a pledge line, even if you don't call it that or order them by height.

If you sat in a circle, made crafts, and got gifts for four weeks, then yeah, you didn't have a line. (No shade, seriously)

DSTCHAOS · #**193** 05-27-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

^^^Ehhhh....... if you have line-ups, you have a pledge line, even if you don't call it that or order them by height.

If you sat in a circle, made crafts, and got gifts for four weeks, then yeah, you didn't have a line. (No shade, seriously)

I want you to expound on this for the sake of thread clarity.

preciousjeni · #**194** 05-27-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

(No shade, seriously)

PANTHERTEKE · #**195** 05-27-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch2tf

I think you should tread a tad bit more lightly.
1) It has been evidenced in previous threads that your general MCGLO and LGLO knowledge are limited to your campus (which btw based on what you have posted previously does not reflect said organizations nationally)

2) to equate the traditions that you see (or choose to see) as being the only traditions that said organizations have is a very limited scope. I suggest you take the time to learn more about non-NIC organizations before you start making blanket statements like those above.

No, my "general MCGLO and LGLO knowledge" is not limited to my campus, seeing as how there are barely any on my campus. Meaning.. If all I knew about these orgs were from what I saw on my campus, I wouldn't know as much as I know.

As far as the traditions that EVERYONE sees, they are not new. I'm not referring to the purpose, mission, niche, etc of your organizations.

I'm talking about what you see EXTERNALLY such as hand signs, calls, stepping, lines, line names, having "aces, deuces, tails" etc, probate/coming out shows, underground pledging, etc.

None of that is new or was introduced into Greekdom by Multicultural/Latin/Asian/Southeast-Asian/etc GLOs. That is all I meant. Do you disagree?

Additionally, when did I ever say that those traditions were the ONLY ones that your orgs have? Never.

And my questions were being asked to the poster that I quoted, but if you all have anything to interject with then by all means do so.