California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Coramoor

Once again you have a handful of liberal activist judges squashing the vote of some thirty odd million people that settled this already. Wasn't this one of the things the Founders warned us about some 200 years ago?

The left is becoming more fascist by the day.

FYI:

Originally Posted by jon1856

"The decision was a bold surprise from a moderately conservative, Republican-dominated court that legal scholars have long dubbed "cautious," and experts said it was likely to influence other courts around the country."

[jon1856]

^^^^^^LOL-I was in the middle of posting the same thing

[Coramoor]

Originally Posted by TSteven

FYI:

By what scale, the NYT?

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Anywho, if it was just a legal matter then a civil union should be enough.

And we're back to this:

Originally Posted by Senusret I

One reason that civil unions aren't good enough is that they are not portable beyond the state they were issued. Another is that there are like 2000 or so rights that automatically come with marriage that have to be duplicated when a state creates civil unions. In a nutshell, it's a waste of time and resources.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Marriage is mentioned and sanctioned in the Bible.

Yes, but that's not the only way to be married. What about courthouse marriages? Are those people not actually married?

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

The majority of the people in this country are Christians, or are part of a religion that recognizes marriage between a man and a woman. So that is where the religious issuse comes in.

Majority rule can be a very dangerous path.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

As far as I know each of those religions support a marriage between a man and a woman. So, yeah if I were that religion I would practice and support their beliefs.

I wasn't referring to marriage specifically. I meant EVERYTHING about that religion controlling your life.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Or, I would do as our Founding Fathers and get up and move to another country where I could establish my own rules.

So...like it or leave? Dear Lord!

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Yes, but that's not the only way to be married. What about courthouse marriages? Are those people not actually married?

Yes, they are.

Majority rule can be a very dangerous path.

Only if you are in the minority.

I wasn't referring to marriage specifically. I meant EVERYTHING about that religion controlling your life.

Some people live like that. Look at those polygamist women here in Texas. I would not choose to live like that but they do. I don't understand their choice but they made it and are willing to live it.

So...like it or leave? Dear Lord!

Yes. Is this not a part of the reason the American West was settled? People did not like life 'back East', so they picked up and moved. Well, that is the reason given of how Houston was settled anyway.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Only if you are in the minority.

My point exactly!

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Some people live like that. Look at those polygamist women here in Texas.

You're misunderstanding my question. I'll drop it for now. I find your response to "like it or leave" far more interesting:

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Yes.

Whoops! There goes the Civil Rights Movement. Oops. Women's suffrage too. Plenty of other things as well. That's a scary notion.

Hmm, wasn't it the great Dr. King who said, "I have a dream....that we should all just pack up and leave."

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Whoops! There goes the Civil Rights Movement. Oops. Women's suffrage too. Plenty of other things as well. That's a scary notion.

Hmm, wasn't it the great Dr. King who said, "I have a dream....that we should all just pack up and leave."

????????

I don't inderstand the point / connection you are making here? Are you saying that the strides of the Women's Sufferage Movement and Civil Rights are similar to homosexuals getting the right to marry?

And yes, when people don't like living in an area they just pick up and leave. There was actually a term for it in the mid to late 60's - it was called 'White Flight'. This occurred when Whites felt that there were too many Blacks moving into their (the White's) neighborhood, so Whites would just move, usually out to suburbia.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

????????

I don't inderstand the point / connection you are making here? Are you saying that the strides of the Women's Sufferage Movement and Civil Rights are similar to homosexuals getting the right to marry?

She's saying they are similar in a general civil rights sense.

Despite the inequalities that still persist in society, think back to when race and gender inequalities were even more overt and strict. There are people who said blacks should "get over it or go back to Africa," even if most blacks weren't voluntary immigrants in the first place. Women were told that "this is how it is."

We have a society of norms and laws. But as taxpayers we do have a voice and a right to challenge these norms and laws that deny groups of people what are perceived to be basic rights. These aren't pedophiles who want to legally have sex with children or people who want the right to walk around naked every Friday while snorting cocaine and smacking people in the face. Instead, these are generally law abiding citizens who want the right to be legally married and enjoy the rights, responsibilities, and privileges therein.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

And yes, when people don't like living in an area they just pick up and leave. There was actually a term for it in the mid to late 60's - it was called 'White Flight'. This occurred when Whites felt that there were too many Blacks moving into their (the White's) neighborhood, so Whites would just move, usually out to suburbia.

You are completely misapplying the concept of "white flight" (and "capital flight"). Please stop.

[kstar]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Majority rule can be a very dangerous path.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Only if you are in the minority.

Sigmadive, you keep forgetting that it is actually: "Majority rule, with minority rights." You want to trample the rights of the minority.